Chapter 16
published 20 April 04

Excerpt session 318

Q: The Movie Close Encounters when they went inside the ship, is that anything like your ships look like inside?

Forces: Ah! We do better than that. What was it that we had told you many, many sessions ago, what one of the major ships were.

Q: 18 football fields.

Forces: You see that our ship is bigger. I just came over a dumb dome, would make the whole area go dark, and they would have to move their silly little airstrip so we could at least put our door down. Inside of our ships, well, hold on a minute, alright, course this tape here is not to be revealed to the public, so you’ll consider this your information. If you ever type up this sessions or any session where we, there are some things that you don’t type up, completely reserve that. The information to be reserved from this point until we inform you so starting now. Ah! One of the ships that we have we call the Zionite Zidek or Zionite ship. The Zionite ship is designed to infiltrate and intercept communications between major governments of your earth. A Zionite ship is at least comparatively a smaller ship in our fleet. It is a silver out exterior more of a ignite aluminum type basis that you would know. It is in its flat stage(projective geometry) about what would be considered 45 ft high to 69 ft wide. Ah. This usually occupies one robot ah or one pilot to two pilots. It is a scanning type device ah has on it ah 400 laser so called beams that you know and 777 what would be called instruments of analyzation and detection and fingerlike substances of experiment design. Has 3 layers in it of space to contain these experimental items. Steps generally do not go up on a straight angle, they have a curved step ladder where we spiral on up in and around the walls of the ship. The steps do not go through the center of the ship that is completely domed or shaped like and the force field goes through the center of the ship to give its momentum. It is compressed to a point of 50ft high and 144 ft wide that is at the maximum expansion. Ships do expand to almost double their size(?Auk) to disappear or appear and ah reappear. This Zionite ship can submerge into 6 fathoms of water Or 16 fathoms, the deepest. And the course of these ships are guided by the Mother Ship rather than direct control, for the Mother Ship receives its information by the many scopic, telescopic and microscopic mirrors that line the ship to give vision and distance in space and sending it back to the Mother Ship. What it is meaning there are the pilots that supervise internal actions, but the distance and traveling of the ship is sub-supervised by the Mother Ship.

You have a Father-Ship we call it the Si-gar Ship or you call it the cigar ship. It is in the form of a cigar. This is used to carry experimental creatures and when we say experimental creatures we mean a force of do-gooders. They come in and infiltrate into the earth and change certain things around. A cigar ship can run anywhere from 144ft long to 200ft. The height is anywhere from 45 to 59 ft, anywhere to 75ft high. And they are air conditioned. They have a storage place of containing records and data and they are generally the library, library and the data fleet-ship. When they would accumulate records and data for all planets throughout the Universe. And we usually say if you want a bit of information go puff on the cigar. Then we have the fleet one ships, which are the major ships that are sited throughout the earth. This is equipped with major devices, scanners of systems, experimentation’s of device to be used operational and cervical, surgical and laboratory experimentation on different cultures to be inserted. They could come anywhere with a fleet of 200 to 3,000 people to operate and to reuse run them. These ships have a capacity of traveling 5 times the speed of light, along with to the 10th power. They have pure glass, but not as you know where you could see entirely out of the ship from any part where you stand inside. And they can supply several living centers, each center could supply anywhere from 200 to 470 individuals in them. They are known relatively to be safe and sound proof from exterior noises, but do have a tendency of mis-marking or missing the marks. Of course we have other major and minor ships. We have the float along ship, that floats along, floats along the clouds and floats along the water-front and the mountain areas. This usually consists of 7 people, light bubble shape, anywhere from 7ft high to 22ft high and the length could be anywhere from 18ft long to 57ft long. And they simply just float along and observe and watch. Their know as the scanning ships in one respect. That should do it for the moment end of information that needed to be kept.

Q: One of the ships that you talked about the Si-gar ship the ones that come down all the do-gooders, how do they come down and can they be recognized?

Forces: They come down on their own power through filters and tubes. They can be recognized, circular in shape at times and pyramid too at times.

Q: When they come down into the earth or when they come down you said as, how do you see them do-gooders. How do they do good?

Forces: When you don’t see them.

Q: Are they living things or do they come down in the shape of the things that they are working with. Do they come down as the insignia of what they are or do they?

Forces: They come down in both categories.

Q: But they never come down as us, looking as us in our shape?

Forces: They can do that too.

Q: If they should do that when would they manifest and how would they manifest. What would be the difference between us .

Forces: You would know that, you would find the where there at.

Q: In the movie Close Encounters when the ship was in the shape of the star and cross, what was each of these used for?

Forces: The star is used for navigation and the cross for latitudes coming into the earth.

Q: What part of the ship is the cross?

Forces: The gyro it could be called. It folds out when we move and in when we are stationary.(?Could it be a cube of space that folds out to space when they move and back to a cube when stationary. the folding of space and time?)

Q: In the Movie CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, when the ship was in the shape of the star and cross, what was each of these used for?

Forces: The star is used for navigation and the cross for latitudes coming into the earth,

Q: What did the use of music in the movie represent?

Forces: It was a musical expression of tones or voices. One can learn through music. It brings our vibration into the earth for contact with the third dimension. The centers in the bodies of those there were prepared by the music,

Q: Where were the tubes?

Forces: The tubes were in between the points of the star.

Q: Could You tell Us about music: what moves the music all around the ship? Could You go into that in more detail?

Forces: From arising the centers within, simple. Question.

Q: How is that?

Forces: Sound waves. Question.

Q: What is the sign of Libra in respect to the spaceships?

Forces: Represents the giving and the receiving. Represents the masculine and feminine balance between Virgo and Scorpio. Represents the justice and law of the Higher Forces.

Q: Would it also represent something within the gyro?

Forces: It represents balance within all forms of motion.

Q: Does it have anything to do with the three Mother Letters?

Forces: This is what would be called alphabet or the Elohim, which is hovering over the scales of the Libra. But this is the force-field in which these three letters, representing the alpha, the omega, and what would be called the middle stage of void-ness.

Q: Do the Elohim have to do with the alphabet?

Forces: It is said it has to do with the creation of the physical body, from the toe to the knee, and the knee to the head.

Session 25

Let me point out a little thing that you have overlooked. That within our space vehicle, in the center of it, we have what is called a gyro. That is the balancing of or bringing into that of the 3rd and 4th dimension that we are guided with. And we can guide in and out at any time. This gyro when it works properly, for we, too, have many troubles with it that projects us billions of years ahead of ourselves. But when the gyro is working, it transfigures and makes balance everything around it.

Q: Heard in a session. Rotations of the ring.

Forces: This represents the movement of what would be considered the physical body and the spirit within the physical body making evolutions within the physical body to become more aware and enlightened of the spirit. It also represents the space vehicle or ships flying through space and time moving forward and backwards in order to fulfill the ship.

Q: Does it have anything to do with the Ring Pass Not?

Forces: This ring is an explicit sphere of barrier manecular, manicular, maniculae, molecule force-field that is generally the same concept in which the solar system is moving through space. Our ships are just a rendition of the solar force-field copied through space, for if we are to move through space, we must move as space moves.

Q: T. talked to us once about how the ships ran and said they had very small holes and there was unequal pressure between the inside and the outside and he drew a diagram of it showing different lines of, I guess pipes and air-holes. Could you explain how that works?

Forces: It works more on the pressure of steam with your radiators. When you hear it knocking you know the steam is coming up. In such there’s pressure forcing heat. It is not the steam and the heat it is the after effect of heat raising in the air. The same is the same in our spaceship. It is that steam heat that affects the outside of the air that is controlled by the inner walls that raises the ship.

Q: Is Tiphereth associated with what is called the gyro?

Forces: This has a certain amount of effect upon the balancing system within the thyroid and within the gyro. It also is found the equilibrium of the ear inner sections and in water.

Q: Could you help me to understand the part of the middle ear that spirals around, what that would represent in a ship?

Forces: This is a balancing polarity. It is also the fact in which in the middle ear is stored up certain locked keys between this dimension and the dimension that you go to on the other side. It is called the doorway between the ? (Physical) visible and the invisible.

Q: How does the door open?

Forces: Sometimes this particular door is opened under pressure, other times through dreams( )and other times through different sicknesses and injuries, plus death itself opens the door permanently.

Q: In meditation you are told to listen to the Silence. How does that affect the middle ear.

Forces: It gyrates and spins certain doors within that middle ear.

Q: So that’s how the ships work. In the Silence?

Forces: Correct.

Session 623

2/20/99

Q: The branch of Tiphereth on the Tree of Life is associated with the middle ear and in an earlier session you mentioned that the locked keys between the dimensions of the visible and the invisible are there. Can you help me to unlock these?

Forces: It is in reference to the cochlea of the (nindel ignia) and the form of the inner snail. It is also representing to the unlocking of the foam or the way of Seth.

Q: And this would be the doorway between the visible and invisible?

Forces: The way (wave) of Seth is that doorway between that which you see now to what became when Adam and Eve and also Cain and Abel, the fighting of this brought, moved Seth into a different dimension.

Q: Is that the fourth dimension?

Forces: It is the doorway between this third and the fourth. It is called the Wave of Seth.

Q: Would there be a prayer or a invocation that would strengthen that?

Forces: Tippy toe I through the door of the unknown before. Leave that which I know and grasp a hold the new of the unknown, it is the tippy toe door. All reality it is the words of this door that we give you.

Q: Is there a tone that would activate the wave of Seth?

Forces: Some say G minor is the tone.

Q: The element Helium has 72 atoms and the Weavers Beam that T. drew at the very top of it has the number 72. How does this relate?

Forces: It is of the world that it resides in.

Q: How does the Beam use the element Helium?

Forces: It is used through the thyroid center to name the tone. And the tone represents the sound of this invisible world.

Golden note G vibrates to the thyroid. (Session 127) G minor listening note.

Q: Do I have an understanding now of what I am thinking about how naming items you understand the name you understand the color and tone. And with the Weavers Beam you can bring whatever into harmony or into manifestation?

Forces: This is true.

Q: Each plant, each herb, each tree?

Forces: This can be true.

Q: So it goes along in the beginning with Adam naming all the animals?

Forces: This can be true.

Q: Could you tell me more about the thyroid center and how Helium relates to the Weavers Beam. Does it go along with the note G that was given before?

Forces: It can but also can come more with the numbers.

Q: Does it more relate to the power of all numbers?

Forces: Yes it can.

Q: Do I understand the whole thing about(of) the handwriting of the Elves how it connects, I mean the handwriting of the Angels how it connects with the Elves on the earth by invisible threads. They use this?

Forces: The handwriting is also connected by Helium.

Q: Are there actual threads that they see and they use?

Forces: Yes, but we using the element of Helium that is the effect of this world of the handwriting. But if you use the quality of Helium and turn everything into it then you all will turn into leprechauns or small people.

Q: Its been said before that the Holy Living Creatures are the ship. I don’t understand. How does that work within the middle ear? How does that connect to the Holy Living Creatures in the ear?

Forces: Certain elements that expand throughout the whole body for it to be functioning as what would be called the Creatures of the Holy.

Q: Are they the ships itself?

Forces: Many forms of ships to be considered.

Q: Could you tell us more about the eighth dimension? Do you have animals as such in that dimension?

Forces: It is a high dimension. You would not find animals there as you would know it on the earth.

Q: Do you have…like the Holy Living Creatures spoken of in the Bible…are they animals, or what are they?

Forces: We wouldn’t consider them animals.

Q: What are the Holy Living Creatures?

Forces: Not animals.

Q: Well, they take the form, as spoken of, as…

Forces: Similar to what you are. Creatures are related to man’s consciousnesss so that he might relate to what these creatures are. They are not meant to be that creature.

Q: What are these forces that take on that aspect within man?

Forces: Expression of the energy field around the universe.

Q: Are these angels?

Forces: Angels? No.

Q: Then what? It was spoken of like in Revelation…the Holy Living Creatures. I thought they were within man. And, also, on a higher level’ what would they be?

Forces: of energy manifested and through the expression of God.

Q: They take on these aspects so they can relate to m an?

Forces: So man can relate with them.

Q: Could you explain what it means like within the ear when the waves they go from latitude or longitude to latitude direction, like they go crossways.

Q: This has a change in the circular drive within the sound barrier. The sound system that it is operating on.

Q: Also what is the meaning of the hammer and the anvil?

Forces: This represents the strainulated type work and sifting. It is the capturing of the energy force within man through slavery and work. There is work where it will benefit everyone and there is work that will benefit only the few.

Q: So what do they represent, the hammer and anvil within the ear?

Forces: This would represent the power of structure, balance and flow of items.

Q: About the middle ear( ) is that correct what I understand, this represents like part of a ship or how the ship works?

Forces: This is correct.

Q: Aren’t they entities the ship itself isn’t it?

Forces: Oh yes.

Q: Isn’t it the Hayoth?

Forces: Call it whatever you want to call it, that’s what it is.

Q: It is isn’t it the Living Creatures?

Forces: Yes we are vibrating in a force-field that gives us pulsation(like heart 42 names)and bodies come together and move the ship.

Q: Those are the Living Creatures, right?

Forces: Yeah we are Living Creatures.

Q: There is a thing like one of the hierarchies or something that is called the Hayoth?

Forces: That’s correct.

Q: Living Creatures?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Are they the ones?

Forces: Yes there the ones.

Q: Because Hayoth really represents some sort of animal or more burden type of creature?

Forces: This getting kind of heavy therefore you are hitting upon a certain field of energy and a certain field of knowledge and a certain field of mechanics of how we operate. Its not energy the way you would think of energy but it is a form of life substance that gives movement throughout the galaxies.

Q: But they are one of the hierarchies?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Except this is their function?

Forces: Yes, movement.

Session 284

2/14/80

Q: In the case of possession, knowing that almost everybody every day becomes possessed at certain times and in going to the extreme of, this case of possession that we saw in the movie and knowing how easy it is on a day to day level to have those moments where you become possessed. What has to happen for a case like we saw in that movie to happen, where that so total of possession takes over a person?

Forces: Interesting as it is, possession is also a two way street, while one might be reacting, you must remember that there is a reaction to, ah reactor around it. Ah the conditions of possession taking about in the body is gradual. More or less the, the expression of, of destruction and the how could we say it, this total hate and lashing out at all those around is a force that the society and the pressures in society has created a work tool with Satan. A large percentages of jobs are in Satan’s territories, there are very few jobs in respect that Satan does not walk occasionally into. What we are trying to say is that possession is a quality in which Satan enters within the body, it happens, and it happened to Jesus, where he was being tempted many times, it had to go through that trial and test and tribulation, many times to succeed and many times to fail, but always to try it over again. This aspect of Satan works basically in a physical level and worldly level first, of the logical mind. And it uses the logical mind so expertly, that is it categorizes and puts items into topics and subjects and outcomes. Not allowing the spirit at all to take over their lives, their allowing pure logic and not faith to take over their lives, therefore the spirit has a difficult time of entering and you would have the conflict there of the outburst or the war with the spirit versus the logical mind. The logical mind of course is Satan’s tool of using this instrument on a worldly level. There are many creative and outpouring efforts that could be done on a worldly level, but there are so many blocks and gates that it cannot really become expressive and stops the flow of that energy, but the unblocking of it or the working this out quality is very dramatically through the prayers, through the chanting’s of your songs and through your meditations has a tremendous power of uplifting gradually from that mire and putting you on a plateau that elevates you. Many of you wonder of, try to wonder of, what happens in meditation and prayer. It is a stepping stone from this logical mind arena and it does truly, without you knowing it elevates the consciousness and gives you inspiration on many levels. Today there are, are very few majority, a very few, receive inspiration and rejuvenation, because very few of them enter into meditation, they stay on a sub-link level of prayer and never enter into that state of, of the Rays, give it whatever name you want. How to ah prevent possession on every day level, daily level occurrence’s, of prayer of course and meditation and keeping a ah, of the seal that you have of course helps tremendously over your Heart center. For possession enters into the Heart. If you look at it you have the 4 beasts, you have the ox and the bull and the lion and the eagle and the man. Now the bull of course you all know represents Taurus and of course as the question was asked about Moses and the blessings and. In that time it was the Taurean Age, takes about 2,000, 2120 or 2,240 years for the sun to go through the Zodiac Signs. And when the sun equinox follows a particular Zodiac Sign, it enters that evolution and experiences that development that is going on in the earth. Of course at that time Taurus represented the Bull in which the people worshiped the Bull and placed the Sun Orb around its horns. Of course the Bull is a tremendous brute force that becomes base and destructive in its path and has that power of destroying all that it meets or understands, so the understanding power, becomes, if those qualities in you do not understand, well rather than to persevere in work, you destroy, so this would represent the Bullishness in us. The positive side of the Bull is perseverance, working, and the stick-to-it-iveness that the Bull represents, in order to give the Hierophant the raising of the powers. Of course you are now in the Aquarian Age which represents the mysticism and psychic and sciences and revelations, and would represent ah 3 stages of Aquarius, that of Saturn and that of Mercury and of course that of Venus, the 3 stages of, of your ah science in Aquarius. Of course these are triads and there are 3 degrees in themselves. So in these degrees you have 15 ah total, 15 degrees and 15 and 15. But the 3 degrees would represent that power in which once again the sounds on the earth need to evolve, instead of being just the base man in that of Saturn, understanding that in this age you are entering all the religious occults happening. That is there are many groups forming, many systems. You are not to segregate yourself from one system versus another. You are a group yes, a learning experience course, and in these experiences of spiritual laws you must be open to receive and understand the other. And this is important, of course you had entered into a group that you were invited to and we would suggest to be a little bit more sharing of the tenets of your beliefs, little bit more expressive in your creative energies. Of course it was kind of careful and all things considering it was advantageous to be carefully expressive, but your tenets and your beliefs, we are not asking that you go out and sow, simply just be them and live them and the groups that you will meet, divisive and decisive as they are, that level would be reached with each particular group met. And perseverance and patience and cooperation is needed with each group that you meet. They will not meet up with the standards that you have been living with, nor on the other hand, that other particular group feels that their standards are a bit different from yours. So this needs a certain amount of patience ah knowing that each group has something to offer, but not to subdue and dominate totally anything that you do meet. But this is what is going on at this moment, a certain segments of groups are developing into nucleus and the stronger ones and the more apt to survive and the more able to maintain themselves become polished and become more resonance and sound carriers and refined and they are the instruments for the future days to come as the thruttle, throne bearers or the establishers of the four corners. And of course this is what you are all working at and on to become a center in which you will be used to become the establishers of the Law, as difficult as it might seem to be, the Law in itself is not accepted readily, it must be proven by example and actions. Now you might be wondering how we got on this tangent from possession to the Aquarian Age, simply that we love to talk, but what we are expressing here is that possession comes in and goes through a different areas of cycles and we are mentioning the seal that you wear and the crest and in so doing we express the different avenues of the Ages of the 4 beasts that needs to be developed within man, which ties us into the present conversation that we are now following. But of course man must soar from his desires into the Eagle, the Eagle Man, where he becomes the inspiration and of course that would move you into Venus, that would be of the Aquarian section, never has it been before that man in this time of Age had moved from the base quality of Saturn, of all his precepts and principles into that of Mercury. Now through your prayers and chants, meditations, it will give you the energy and inspiration to move into the Signs of Mercury. And this will give you more what would be called inspirational inventions, which this particular aspect of Aquarius would represent. Very few then would go into Venus which would be the Love aspect of the Aquarian Age, that of the Christ Spirit coming in. So you have a great potential set ahead and before you to accomplish. Everyday must be met and before you know it, you’ll be in your 60’s and 70’s some of you and your life will be in back of you, but your ground work still must be done and each day becomes the biggest advantage and test in this cycle of development of the beast within, which ties us to the possession, cause when the beast within gets more dominance and more control then they refuse to relinquish anything. That’s where patience and perseverance and faith and love and compassion comes in, in subduing the beast within man.

Q: Now the Aquarian Age, what will be the symbol for the Aquarians?

Forces: The Aquarian Age is the Angel-Man and is symbolized as the Angelic Being.

Q: Could you explain what is the nature of what we call the ships and how they start off in the 8th dimension and how would they travel a system which is in the locks. The process by which they start off and travel through this?

Forces: Ships are the inability and ability to project and reappear into dimensions. Ships are another force of angelic beings which is the hierarchies or angelic host. Host are angelic ships. Host being ships ah many visions of angels had been flying in spaceships or host. Another name for spaceships is host. Host of many natures could imply many things, but a host is that which the elements of a civilization, society, or dimension is given food or given sustenance or is taking its food from. This is what you would call host and this is what the meaning of the name. Ah a host is also a private ah culture and environment. The angelic host comes from the angel word and An-letic office, angelic or quality of possessing the host state and manifesting it on the earth. There are many changes in this state. But there are also many fundamental laws that imply the building of a dome type condition. Where the host or a spaceship do travel they only go through the time warp sequence to the conditions that they are needed. No host or ship ever is found in areas that they are not needed or implementation or inclination of their substance. All ships are found in areas that they can handle. Therefore the ships are operated by a energy of the sun but not of this same ?(sword) stored and manufactured away. It is more also handled by a crystal type effect of inner reflection and energy that can last oh for a period of 4 to 40 years. Ships are very deviation and different type of conditions and locks, ah it can affect the physical body, mental body, and spiritual body. Ah these ships hovering above affect the atmosphere and environment of the area. This should take care of you as far as ships are concerned. Flying saucers or ships can go in devious manners and appear and reappear. They warp zone effect. But the laws are still the laws and they are still be obeyed by the laws.

Q: Now are there regular ships that do not change, something like the earth maybe or more sophisticated?

Forces: This is what you call the Grand Ship or the Grand Prix type understanding or the novel, novelty foundation in which the air inside of them wears to a level in which they need to be replaced.

Q: But normally the other ships, is there, is the whole ship sort of affected by a particular mood or vibration of the occupants within?

Forces: This could be true.

Q: And do they as they move ah lets say they come from the 8th dimension, then as they come down into the 3rd dimension will they the 7 dimension’s their consciousness be a little bit less, and then a little bit less until the 3rd dimension. Do they go through these changes?

Forces: These certain lock systems, yes.

Q: Is there any way to, for the 8th dimension to reach…?

Forces: Unravel into the 3rd dimension.

Yes. This is the meditation process of calling upon the over-self to come down and take possession.

Q: But other than that is no being that can come from the 8th dimension into the 3rd dimension without change?

Forces: This is not true.

Q: So they can?

Forces: Well they can but they have to have some agreement or written clarification on that they are about to do.

Q: From whom to whom?

Forces: From that which is in control of the situation to the individual.

Q: Could you explain in what relationship the host we consecrate as set up by Jesus, how it relates to this?

Forces: The host is a direct relationship of the flying saucer vehicle and represents to the higher self the return symbol of the soul.

Q: You were describing the ships and you said that they were made of angelic host and yet when they I guess so to speak descend through the dimensions or go through dimensions they finely end up in the 3rd dimension appearing to us as like a metal type of object. What is it like when you start off in the 8th dimension for you or do you actually enter into some type of a vessel or you just project yourselves.

Forces: Lets say the 8th dimension is like a flame burning constant glow and more of a radiation of heat.

Q: But is it something that you actually enter into?

Forces: Oh yah, its something that’s to enter too.

Q: was talking to me about a certain angel the other day representing the elliptical force, is this how they get the shape of the ships?

Forces: Names were taken from what would be considered the lyrical sense or liptical sense. All names were pronounced by song waves and it is the song which vibrates the ships. ( Holy Living Creatures sing? )

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