Chapter 02
published 29 March 04

Session 248

8/7/79

Q: In the scheme of evolution you had at the time of Christ the age of Pisces and representation things in that time were like the Fisherman and the miracle of the Loaves and the Fishes which are that sign. And then before that with Moses in the age of Aries and going to the Ram symbol and before that with Egypt with the Bull and Taurus. Earlier in the..

Forces: (remember) the expression La-tarot ta-rum (tus) or better known as, as the Land is eaten so it is to be lived, ah go ahead.

Q: Earlier in the Biblical history, would that correspond to Gemini the Twins and this be symbolized by Cain and Abel and Jacob and Esau and Adam and Eve?

Forces: Run back your theory again.

Q: In the early Biblical history at the time of Creation, would that be in the age of Gemini for which the symbol is the Twins?

Forces: You have Creation (Forces breath forcibly out) was the breath, the wind just as it was demonstrated. The time of the wind is of course Gemini.

Q: Now was that the first age that the soul was manifested in? For instance would Atlantis be in the Age of Cancer?

Forces: If they had Cancer they would have to get it out. You got to understand my dear friend that stars did not exist before the souls existed. Therefore there was no Zodiac until man got caught into the earth.

Q: Right. But what I mean is in the Bible like in the times of Abraham and Jacob and all of that up to the time of Moses. Ok if you go back farther than that would that be the Atlantean time?

Forces: We would call it such.

Q: And would that be in the Age of Cancer or would that still be part of the Age of Gemini?

Forces: Be in the Age of Gemini-Cancer.

Q: What would be some of the things symbolic of that time?

Forces: The Solar Condenser was from the earth reflecting, giving energy which is directly from( ).

Q: Now at the time of Lemuria what Age did that occur in?

Forces: You would have this the time of the Sun which is Leo.

Q: And of the civilization Hyperborea would that be Virgo?

Forces: You would have Virgo and Libra together at that time.

Q: So at what point as we know the Ages and the Eons did man or did the soul first come into the realms of the earth not necessarily the matter itself, but the realms?

Forces: At what point to mean at what Zodiac sign?

Q: At what Age. Was it even before Hyperborea?

Forces: It was the Age of Pisces.

Q: Now that we are entering into the Age of Aquarius which is the water bearer, what will be some of the symbols of this Age?

Forces: Fast moving, thinking, impatience, mod furniture, electric, souple, swift, lamps, scientific research. But all this will not come to culmination until the end of the beginning. But it is the fast movement of thoughts in time and space.

Session 74

7/9/75

Remember that the mind is of Satan. The mind is used by Satan. All this is part of Lucifer in the earth. Lucifer is the one that questions and logically reasons things out. It is the Mind that we are trying to get away from. And it is the mind that puts us deeper and deeper into that of disharmony. It is only when you call upon that as you know Michael, the Archangel for the power of faith and most of all for the power of trust in your God can you conquer the Luciferic sphere of attachment. At this moment in your social evolution you have the medical profession at times involved in the what would be called Lucifer Age. If man only turns within to his higher self, then all these things that manifest on the outside would be healed, or worked with or changed. But as long as man continues to use his mind to find and conquer, it is not his mind, but that of the Luciferic origin that makes man wanting to learn. Learning is a process given to you, not by God, but by Lucifer. So in reality you have many souls entering into higher forms of learning only in reality these forms of learning are that of Lucifer’s origin. This is the battle that Michael has with the earth. For remember the souls continue to evolve on the other planets. And this is not the last planet of your evolution. You have that of Jupiter, Venus, and that what would be called Saturn. All these things are just beginning. You are now in the earth learning that of love and spirit versus mind and logic. It is when we start using our logical mind do we find trouble. And this trouble is brought to us only by using what we think logically is going to happen. We must accept things in faith and love, knowing that it is God’s hand that directs us. So, as you can see. The black force is very much in tuned in the earth’s crust. Even at this moment as I am speaking, there is great force to try not to reveal these things, to stop them. At this force, this Lucifer origin cannot and will not stop you. It is being what would be called ever trick in the book to prevent this group from moving on.

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Q: How did Lucifer-Satan get the idea to go against God when he was an angel without free-will?

Forces: The point that all archangels were created by us to do the work as down the scale. They seeing that they had to do and what they could manifest in thought forms, they did not go against God. They only did what they wanted to do with the power that God gave them. They did not create according to our plan for harmony, but they created according to the plan of experiencing everything which in turn sets off the whole plan that was first started. So now we have to go through this way before we can continue with the original plan.

Q: Did you create life on any other planets too?

Forces: The other planets are inhabited by spirits that were created by the thought-forms of the archangels, the archise as was named by this entity and by the angel forces on this earth that was who you work with. We create by our thought-forms just as you create by your thought forms. As the angel has fallen away from the plan he is forced to go once more back to his original self. He must again climb upward, but this time with man. He must climb upward with man and must experience the pain that man experiences, even more-so.

Q: But not all the angels fell down, or did all of them? I mean Lucifer and Satan.

Forces: And there were a majority of angels too.

Q: That came along with Satan and Lucifer.

Forces: Exactly.

Q: Are those the ones that took over Saturn?

Forces: Those are the ones that took over the earth.

Q: But the ones you said that took over Saturn, you didn’t explain who they were?

Forces: They were archangels, no. They were our what would be called comrades that decided not to have any part of creating the earth…End of side B…the other planets of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto and that which is one more outside of that range.

Session 385

11/1/81

Q: When did the Nazi movement start (can’t make out rest)?

Forces: The Nazi movement started when the son of Satan fell into the earth.

Q: Son of Satan?

Forces: Very good.

Q: Who is the son of Satan and that means Satan didn’t?

Forces: Satan could not fall directly into the earth, but used objects and elements around him to fall into the earth, by his own powers. He himself was kept into a barrier in which could not pass or penetrate the earth field because of Archangel Michaels sword of Paradise. But he too was cast out of Paradise mind you. But none the less he uses son of Satan, which is the logical mind and the mental mind, the sons of Satan are these two elements.

Q: Who is then Lucifer?

Forces: Lucifer is a quality which represents part of a santanic force, more of a masculine quality from a the Lucifenic Age or better known from that part of Venus.

Q: So is Lucifer possibly a son of Satan?

Forces: Lucifer is an entity or element of expression of Satan.

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Q: The book I was reading about the Greek mathematics, that’s just the Luciferian thing?

Forces: Let us say it is a depth of depth of thoughts and is part of the Luciferian vibration. There is a point in which mathematics can be used, but when it reaches that point, it becomes nothing but mental. It is like two lines drawing together, and when they meet, the form two other lines going out into space to infinity.

Session 269

12/4/79 On silencing the logical mind.

Prayer-Lord, in this hour I come before you to strengthen my faith. Help me when I am weak to become strong in the spirit, that my logical mind will not take control, that my spiritual being will have the ultimate say.

Forces: You must understand people, that your logical mind questions the spirit constantly, that the logical mind feels it knows all the answers to everything. But how shocked we are and dismayed to find out that the spirit comes forth and confounds always the logical mind. So at this point we’re only saying to you: Silence your logical mind and open up your spiritual essence, your spiritual powers. By doing so, you can walk on territory that has never been walked on before. So Silence your logical mind and let your heart open to the spiritual essence of life.

Q: Isn’t there a price for opening the spiritual side and closing the logical? And what is that price?

Forces: Opening up the spiritual and closing the logical. Price of evolution of the soul movement forward.

Q: But there is physical consequences?

Forces: Yes, certain cells within the body are vibrating and they cannot be slowed down once started.

Q: What are those cells?

Forces: Those deal with the stability of the mind, causing a great deal of mental depression and schizophrenia they call it, manic depressions as they call it; All this terminology is just the explanation of mind going through its bends and once vibration starts, should not be stopped.

Q: Does also in consequence slow down other cells as it speeds up these?

Forces: It brings the heart cells into shape and function. When it is terminated, it turns that into fat.

Q: Could I have a little better understanding on the last thing you said?

Forces: Cells around the heart vibrate at a certain rate. When one turns away from the spiritual path the cells that vibrated at certain rates and stopped turned into fat.

Session 13

Q: I’d just like to know about selfishness, what it is and why, why. I don’t understand it. Where does it come from?

Forces: In the beginning selfishness was from the individualized soul that was created from the Godhead. It traveled through many eons of space and time in which it had possibilities of enhancing it through its true self in which it was its true self. Selfishness was not known in the kingdom of the kingdoms in which the King of Kings did reside in. Selfishness was not discovered as a feeling or an emotion or an excursion until the down right onslaught of the angelical host. It is called the angelical host of destruction and also it is advisable to say selfishness is the turning away from the Godhead. It is what would be called gratification and glorification; same, and at fault.. Selfishness is a simplified and is very simply put as one who refuse to listen to the truth within. In the beginning the truth was with him (them) all as they did travel. But as one was riding up higher and higher in the astral plane, they saw the development into the physical plane, as the material plane known as the galaxies that you have here set it in what is called the Milky Way. It is one of many galaxies that reside and sprinkled around into the pattern and the work of the clay of the cloth. It is what would be said again, were (where) these souls traveling through eons of time, but there is no time, again repeat it no time, but measurement of man on earth we speak of time. As they did travel they saw the development and as what would be called the law of evolution. Evolution was being in progress on this planet called earth in this galaxy of Antpont Eff. It is called from this that the souls did take away many upheavals into it and did enter into the vibratorial expressions, more so the gratification of selfishness. Selfishness is the attunement of only desires for desires self achievement and gratification of not listening to. Selfishness again has not been known until these souls did travel and did come into this existence and did take upon the vibratorial forces and gratification’s within it. You all have a long way to go before you realize that true Godhead within yourself. The only way it will and can manifest is by (1) Love : (2) Faith. By these are the cornerstones of the universe and galaxies. We ask that you love of giving of self and through faith of not wondering what you look like as far as ego is concerned, that you all will progress to your true Godhead. And the truth that is within yourselves will be manifested. Selfishness is the desire not to do what you can do.

Session 233

5/15/79

Q: What was the length of time from creation until the earth physically manifested?

Forces: It’s a long times. Some say a billion years, some say 2 billion, some say 8. About 5 _ billion.

Q: And what was the length of time from the time the earth physically manifested until the appearance of Adam?

Forces: 2 million to 3 million.

Q: What was the length of time from Adam until the present?

Forces: Again can be debated, about 10 million.

Session 264

10/25/79

or 265

11/4/79

Q: Can you tell us the evolutionary pattern of Neptune. Where it is now and what it was and whats is destined to happen?

Forces: Well Neptune is a strange planet, it seems to have come from other planets around it. It is some theory here that Uranus threw off this glob and it became ah Neptune. There is also another theory that it is the galaxy towards psychic Revelation and Developments. There”s also some belief to be the overlapping planet that belongs out of the galaxy.

Q: What about Arcturus?

Forces: Arcturus is more of an entrance into it and that hope is through this door.

Q: So Neptune is before Arcturus?

Forces: Yes, Yes.

Q: What kind of beings reside on Neptune?

Forces: Well more like visitors of ethers or flast, flash or items that move at a different focus than ah than presumably on the earth.

Q: Could you tell us what the vibration of soapstone is?

Forces: It is the vibration of energy passing through matter. It is a vehicle that would enable the spirit world to manifest.

Q: I’m not sure if I know what question I want to ask. Does that mean it’s like a door or something that like puts up a doorway?

Session 105

November 28, 1976

Forces: Soapstone is the perfect element for perceiving mysteries and laws into the fourth dimension. It is one of the many stones that is stated that breaks down the atoms and separates them from heavy to lighter forces.

Q: So when it was used in the Temple, in the original, that was what it was for, to bring in the…

Forces: Correct.

Q: Can it be worn on the body? Would it help it?

Forces: It would have a limited effect on the body, causing bruises, light lacerations, and a pain in the neck.

Q: How about a small piece?

Forces: A small piece would not be powerful enough to consecrate or concentrate it on the physical body. Other way, one way or the other, you lose.

Q: So the whole house is really constructed as a….

Forces: Tank.

Q: When it was talked about the creation of soapstone and you said it was the Age of Change, would that have been around the time of Atlantis?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Is all stone made out of entities like you described about soapstone?

Forces: They give you the Age of Stone, soapstone to be billions of years old, that should give you an idea that it was near in the time of Atlantis. It is the magic potion of Atlantis, the magic power of their energy.

Q: How is the soapstone converted back to energy, through magic?

Forces: Slowly and through time and energy of prayers around it.

Q: What does it do.

Forces: It allows things around it to grow abundantly. It gives out energy. If you look at your Stone of Prayer or Alt you will see your trees behind it. The trees are zooming up higher and higher than ever before. It is not normal for those trees to grow so fast as they"re growing.

Q: What does the stone serpentine mean?

Forces: It is a substance that could represent the ability of building, of sacrifice. Serpentine is that of the soap material, built under the great abode of many, many dinosaurs and many prehistoric animals. A vast graveyard of exploration. In this area many prehistoric animals once roamed. Also in this area was considered the headquarters for some of the Atlantean investigations of material and scientific research. You will also find a major pyramid of what would be called the lunar orb or the solar energy factor for the northern hemisphere, near that of Florida and that off the coast of Virginia.

Q: Can you give us a process or covering or something, on soapstone sinks, to make them look nice? Maybe a formula for paint made out of soapstone?

Forces: Soapstone reacts very strongly with certain acids. But not a direct acid. Lemons have some action on soapstone. But remember the soapstone is a mystical stone, that contains everything that would destroy and it comes up with the antibody. In fact soapstone is one of the living stones that has its very being by being very hard, very(?dark, dull)and very strong. Yet by being very compassionate, very soft. Soapstone would be considered one of the Divine stones. It is considered one of the Christ-like stones in the stone world. Besides that of diamond, under terrific pressure, soapstone is made out, the elements of what be considered metaphysical and physical prehistoric beings. These beings were servants to man. They were so reliable, that when the sons of man wanted things done, all they did was think and these beings did. When the Age of Change came and the Age to destroy the outlandish beings, the good beings, being found in soapstone was also destroyed. Therefore bringing over their qualities of tremendous ability and durability under extreme conditions, but giving way to the most subtle sword or blade in refinement of them. Soapstone has a reaction, in which when put on the stone, unto an acid, they produce the same exact acid on top of the surface of the stone, which would mean that the acid will never penetrate the so called stone. Therefore it is considered a living stone. Living by its what would be considered exorbent amount of reaction, action with the elements placed on it. We would say that the only thing that can clean soapstone is soapstone.

Q: Now those beings that are entrapped, are they entrapped in the stone or are they the stone?

Forces: They’re the stone.

Q: Therefore instead of totally eliminating them’ because they were good, they were given the stone as their abode?

Forces: As their expression continuum.

Q: So that’s how come the soapstone is a psychic stone and giving off light?

Forces: Correct. Soapstone is only the physical reminiscence of the Sons of Light in a day, bygone era, that no longer has its reminiscent on earth.

Q: So in that case, are they alive also physically in another world inside that stone?

Forces: You can take soapstone and put it to your right ear, concentrate in a perfect manner and it will reveal certain secrets to you, of that age.

Q: Is the idea I have correct, that soapstone was like a vehicle for the higher Sons of Light, like the ships and this is only like the remnant of the ships, their living beings?

Forces: That would make correct sense.

Q: There was a book that described life within those trees that do not move, but yet was a life in a droplet or something. There was a whole life, there’s a whole culture. Is that something like it or how many entities is one stone or how is that done. How is that kind of, is there a culture there. Is their life dimensional kind of thing?

Forces: There is a variety of ways of analyzing a particular stone. Measuring how much entities are in it. There could be the way of sanding down particles of the stone, putting it under so called primitive microscope and seeing how many

different cata-gor-gor-ies of designs you have under the stone. In so doing you will count the exact amount of so called beings from the stone. There is another way of graining, how many grains are in the stone, physically seen

determines how any beings in the stone. A grain separates one being from another being. There is also the weight, volume, the weight of a stone over 10 pounds will mean there should be after the 10 pounds, at least 3 beings, after the 27th pound, the 50th pound would have 4 beings, from 50 to 100 could contain at least 20 beings.

Q: Is that how man came to be bursting the stone manifesting qualities?

Forces: Man came to be from the Beginning of Time in the Breath of God. Man got trapped in the earth where he had no business being. But then became his business.

Q: But what you’ve been saying is that these stones are (?giving or living)?

Forces: Correct.

Q: That means that somewhere along the line man as stone had to manifest a certain qualities where God said, it is ready for you (?Jesus)?

Forces: Let us not go into this. The stones have a servant attitude to man. Jesus is only expressing the ability in which these stones themselves will cry out and give voice to the proclamation of truth. That is the meaning of putting your ear to the stone and listening to the certain secrets of ages gone past

Session (?)

Q: Is there any connection between this group and that which we know as being involved with Greek mythology?

Forces: All that which was called Olympus was Atlantis or Atlas, as would be called. It was on this hill that a great school or pyramid of thought was built. Here certain individuals were found.

Q: You mean to say that those were ordinary people of the earth that made certain achievements?

Forces: We would say spiritual forms manifesting in a much more denser condition.

Q: But those weren’t people from the forces?

Forces: We.

Q: Could you describe the religious ceremonies that took place in Atlantis?

Forces: Everything was a religious ceremony in Atlantis. That question you will hold for the next time. It will take time to try to explain to you as the sun comes up and goes down, the religious services took place. From the adoration of the solar orb to the setting vibration’s speed of light, Everything was in a service.

Q: Could you give us a description of the religious services that took place in Atlantis?

Forces: You would find them lasting for 47 days, from lasting for three days, from lasting for four hours. Each consisting of the singing and the praising and the raising of the ethers around to such a degree that it changed and improved all the area for many, many months to come

Q: Could you tell us something about the religious ceremonies that took place during the high time of Atlantis?

Forces: Generally they dealt around the astral communion. Or the spirit level of walking back and forth from whence one had come from.

Session 150

March 9, 1978

Q: Thank you. A long time ago———- had asked about the religious services in Atlantis, and it was said that more information would be given at a later date. Could anything else be given about Atlantis?

Forces: The particular services carried on some for several days in which the power was raised to such a point that photos and pictures of other galaxies appeared to those who were worshipping. Also the effects of the building and atmosphere came into manifestation after a period of seven (7) what would be called cycles. This is when they were in the proper focus of services.

Q: What would be the proper focus?

Forces: Sincerity of heart and faith and belief in the service.

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