Chapter 05
published 1 April 04

Session 150

March 9, 1978

Q: What is meant by "So he drove out the man: and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life?

Forces: This represents the very difficult path in which man must once again find the secrets within him through many tests and trials and tribulations that once man finds this inner side, this power, it could either be used for good or evil. That is why it is protected so carefully.

Q: So are there people that have passed through that and then used it for evil?

Forces: Correct.

Q: If they would reach the sixth center, would they still be able to use it for evil?

Forces: It would destroy them at that point.

Q: So they really couldn’t use it for evil?

Forces: Once they leave to that point, they have left the point of protection. Then the destruction takes on the process after that point.

Q: That means the cherubim and the flaming sword are the will center?

Forces: More so to the pineal center.

Q: Isn’t that the sixth center?

Forces: You would find that this defense mechanism is there to protect the will and the power of decisions rightly, but if used wrongly, it is a destructive measure.

Q: Oh, I see. So that’s the Cherubim and that’s the flaming sword?

Forces: Correct.

Q: That power to destroy actually.

Forces: Correct.

Q: What protects… The protective mechanism is not for the person, it’s a protective mechanism for the Garden of Eden?

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Forces: For the consciousness of spirit.

Q: Does it mean that anybody before he reaches that thing, he can go ahead and do evil and he will not be destroyed by the evil he is doing?

Forces: Incorrect.

Q: Not the same lifetime. I mean, yes, karma, but it won’t destroy in the same life?

Forces: Yes and no. It would have the same effect.

Q: You mean in the long run?

Forces: Correct.

Q: What is a cherubim?

Forces: It is a force field of power and also a protective element in the atom or chemical world around. It is also what would be considered strength mechanism.

Q: The Cherubim… strength… so that would also represent the sun then, the cherubim?

Forces: Correct.

Q: And the seraphim?

Forces: This would be a male/female aspect.

Q: Do they have form the way man describes it in paintings?

Forces: It is more electric than a form, but when standing, it would take this form on.

Q: Of a little baby?

Forces: Correct.

Q: In Chapter 1 on the sixth day man was created male and female. Were they one body? And in Chapter 2 God creates man again, does this refer to the 144,000 souls?

Forces: It was one body, one spirit, and the second one creation and finalizing of the physical or bringing it to a physical consciousness.

Q: So when it was one body, it still didn’t have any flesh, it was still just spirit?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Thank you. In Chapter 2 God puts Adam in the Garden of Eden to work in and keep it. What was the work?

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Forces: The work was what would be considered a spiritual awareness of God the Father.

Q: Praying?

Forces: Which kept the Garden of Eden.

Q: Is it more like the gardener in that (End of Side 1)

Q: The first souls were in the image of God made male and female and the second were not?

Forces: Second was the dividing of that nature.

Q: Physical division.

Forces: Correct.

Q: But then, is God male and female?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Where was the Tree of Knowledge? When the serpent… when the serpent asks the woman if they are allowed to eat from the trees of the garden, she says that they are allowed to eat from the fruits of that of the garden, but not of the fruits in the garden. What is meant? The fruits of the garden, but not of the fruits In the garden. What is meant?

Forces: It is similar "Be of the world, but not in the world".

Q: What did she see that the tree is good to eat from if she has not…if she has not eaten of it yet and had no knowledge and was blind to…

Forces: The tree had a particular scent that was different from all other trees of consciousness around that gave off a feeling of doubts, of fears, of good, of evil, sweetness and sour. It was the five senses that were coming from this particular tree that the physical body did not have, in general, did not need.

Q: So actually she ate from it…

Forces: And received the five (5) senses.

Q: That tree attracted them because of boredom?

Forces: It attracted them because of curiosity. They had everything going for them and a revelation of constant power to do whatever they had to do, but this particular tree would bring them down from that power, and yet, because it was segregated from all other trees, they wanted the five (5) senses also.

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Q: Just to experience it?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Was it an actual tree?

Forces: It was a growth in a tree form of life.

Q: But there was actual trees as we can understand it?

Forces: Each tree on a spiritual level represents a consciousness and fruit to be given.

Q: Are your ships the Garden of Eden or surrounding the Garden of Eden?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Which one? Both?

Forces: Correct.

Q: And when Cain was sent out to the earth from a different dimension, was he one of you? Was it in space?

Forces: Correct.

Q: So actually he was just dumped on the earth.

Forces: Correct.

Q: What is the mark of Cain? Is it still feasible?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Is it feasible on a physical level?

Forces: Correct.

Q: What is it?

Forces: The mark of Cain was in the forehead in which was a number printed by the civilizations in which he was expelled from.

Q: I see. So those civilizations which were the Garden of Eden which is you, you do not punish. Is that correct? That’s the only punishment?

Forces: We cannot allow it. He will be placed in prison.

Q: Which is the earth.

Forces: Correct.

Q: Now when he comes down to the earth, does he retain the consciousness of where he came from?

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Forces: Correct.

Q: Now the generations that came from him, do they also carry the number?

Forces: It would be carried for a point in time. Then it would become evident through the genes, chromosomes, and hereditary factors.

Q: What would those be?

Forces: Certain characteristics in the race corporation.

Q: Could you tell us what those characteristics would be?

Forces: You would find them dominant in the race of the Caucasian to be vaguely huge bones, six (6) foot three (3), six (6) foot two (2), Amazons, stubby fingers, a brow Homo-sapien type feelings, species designed and passed down to the Caucasianal races, some type of feeling of evil, freckles or patches of skin discoloration, variance of skin tones, and pigmentation.

Q: And what?

Forces: Pigmentation.

Q: That is in the white race.

Forces: Correct.

Q: Each race has different…

Forces: The characteristics of the subtopics would continue in each race of the five (5).

Q: I see. Now it was a group then of Cain’s that came down that was sent out. Correct? Or was it just one?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Besides exiling, do you also…you mark that person for which purpose—so he’s recognized here on earth by you his problems?

Forces: That he should never forget his origin and his pitfalls. Also for our purposes.

Q: Do you have entities that are marked but not on this earth walking around with original marks as they are being marked? Is that a form of punishment?

Forces: Correct.

Q: In more evolved galaxies?

Forces: Correct.

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Q: Thank you.

Forces: The mark of a thin or slender person in the species would be considered grotesque.

Q: In which species?

Forces: In these galaxies we would consider that and very long hair, as you would call hair.

Q: Grotesque?

Forces: Marked.

Q: Those are the marks of punishment?

Forces: They are the beginning of the marks.

Q: Very skinny and long hair.

Forces: The other mark in your species…not needed.

Q: The skinny and the long hair, that’s another mark of Cain, that’s the beginning of that?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Thank you. Does the speech of Lamech refer to Cain’s killing or something else?

Forces: The annihilation of species on the earth.

Q: The annihilation of species on earth?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Who were the other sons and daughters and were they all from Eve?

Forces: The other sons and daughters, majority of them were from Eve. The others were from a higher field.

Q: Were these children by thought forms or partially by thought forms or not at all?

Forces: Some were, some weren’t.

Q: The ones from the higher field were thought forms?

Forces: Correct.

Q: And the others were regular birth, the way we know today?

Forces: Not the way it is today.

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Q: How many children did Eve have altogether?

Forces: Over 400 (four hundred).

Q: How many years did she leave… did she live?

Forces: How many years did she need? She needed all the years she could get. You would consider her years to be 180 (one hundred and eighty).

Q: How did she have 400 children?

Forces: Each month she took something. You would say her years to be 180 (a hundred eighty) to 160 (a hundred sixty) to 150 (a hundred fifty).

Q: Was birth less than nine months.

Forces: Some was more like immediately.

Q: OOOOOOOOH! Were they all part of Adam, too?

Forces: Yes and no. Satan.

Q: How many of good kids were out of those 400?

Forces: A hundred and fifty (150).

Q: Now since she had another 250 children by Satan, did she live by Lucifer?

Forces: Star of the morning star. (?Venus)

Q: Now how was she going to take care of all of that?

Forces: She didn’t. It is a Satanic woman who loves to have children and gives it to others to take care of. It is the characteristics of the marked race.

Q: How did she ever redeem herself?

Forces: We do not know.

Q: But she did redeem herself?

Forces: In respect to having Seth. Let us say she redeemed herself through the consciousness of Mary.

Q: Yes, that’s what I mean. She reached that point of being Mary.

Forces: Correct.

Q: How did she reach that point?

Forces: Through a lot of suffering and awareness that was to be made.

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Q: Then were all women at that point in the same situation?

Forces: Yes and no. Some of the births were of thoughts forms. Some of the births became physical, and the births that became physical…

Q: Were 250.

Forces: For the births of the 150 (hundred and fifty) that became physical were more or less 255 (two fifty-five). The births of the ones that became physical the ones 250 (two fifty).

Q: So all the black forces were born physically? Some of the white forces were born physically?

Forces: All the black forces were born either mutants or very charming. All the white forces were born with a lot of strength and what would be considered a passiveness.

Forces: Correct.

Q: There are two Enoch’s mentioned in Genesis about seven generations apart. And each one had a son. One was named Methuselah and the first one’s name was very close to that, Methusael. And each Methuselah or Methusael had a Lamech. I’m wondering what the connection is between them?

Forces: A cycle that is being repeated. You are seeing the evolution of the spirit coming into the earth as the same. Question.

Q: And one was from the line of Cain and one was from the line of Seth. Was it not?

Forces: One was from the line of which was darkness and one was from the line which is of light. Both had to same, the follow pattern. Question.

Session 21

Q: The movie I watched last night. What does this all mean? I couldn’t understand certain things that I was questioning Tom?

Forces: It would mean taking into consideration that the devil has his disciples and so does God. That the devil offers his disciples great magic’s and powers. But God offers only progression of the soul through kindness, through wisdom, through patience. And eventually in which progression into which is the Christ. Nothing is speed up in the evolutionary pattern and the only way it can be speed up is through the silence. Also, what is known as Lucifer, has given certain powers only to reign a thousand years. But the thousand years have come to an end. And now it is God’s turn to reign. So a thousand years will reign on the earth. And as you saw for Satan, so now you shall see for God. Is this understood?

Q: Oh, it could be actually the same thing?

Forces: Only by who’s playing and who’s up to bat. The ball is the same. It’s the one who’s hitting it that is different. And their objectives. Is this understood/

Q: Not fully, but I think I got as much as I…the answer as much.

Forces: That is very good. Remember that God already has the score of the game. And he knows who’s going to win. That is a crooked ballgame. But it must be played out to the end.

Q: Well, I think that was part of my objection. Why does it have to be played out in the hands of Lucifer?

Forces: Because the entity or that which is named Lucifer in the very beginning was cast out of the heavens. But from that point he was told to go see what he can do. And after he finished, then God comes to see what he can take and undo. And the power of Light is over darkness. And the Light curses the darkness. It is futile for Satan to continue, but he does because in the end he will lose himself.

Q: So after this thousand years, there is, is there going to be again a cycle of Lucifer a thousand years? Is there always a cycle of thousand-thousand?

Forces: Until the Christ Spirits enter into the earth. Maybe after this thousand years is up, that thousand years will not progress. And then we will go on to other galaxies in which Lucifer does not have control over.

Session 211

Q: Could more be given about what it was like in and around the Garden of Eden when Adam and Eve were there?

Forces: Who do you think Adam and Eve was?

Q: Adam as one man was Amelius and a group consciousness.

Forces: Anyone else? Any-body else?

Q: Was the entity also part of Adam?

Forces: Adam and Eve did not come from this world. All you know that, right? They were planted here. They were from a distant galaxy and took on forms of the earth as time grew on. Adam and Eve was a consciousness of peace before they desecrated the laws that was with them thousands of years ago. These laws can still be in use and working if only time could only stand the strength of man’s demands.

Q: Was Adam…was Adam the ark or was he placed in the ark?

Forces: It is of both.

Q: Could you tell us more about the mountain that Adam or the…or generations after Adam which they lived on in the cave?

Forces: This is that of the Higher Forces coming down to work with man. You will still find remnants of our presence in the earth in these caves. Question.

Q: Where are the caves of Adam?

Forces: On the earth.

Q: Thank you.

Session 202

11/23/78

Q: Why did Adam have to name all the animals before he was given Eve?

Forces: These are the qualities within himself that he had to put under his power or obtain. Man went through a great evolution before all the animals were named.

Q: Could you give more information about the evolution?

Forces: The development from a heavy set of experience and encasement in the earth to something that would be more giving and more inclined to bear of itself.

Q: Is that like Atlantis, did that take place in Atlantis?

Forces: Before Atlantis ever existed.

Q: Is that Lemuria?

Forces: Before Lemuria ever existed.

Q: Was that in a spirit world?

Forces: It was in a spirit world but even beneath that spirit world.

Q: You mean the entities when they fell didn’t really fall to the earth, they fell below to another, to a lower consciousness than what this earth is?

Forces: Something similar to that. There is a thin layer in the atmosphere that these elemental force reside. Chances are you would see it hovering above your head on a foggy day.

Q: And that’s the lower consciousness?

Forces: It is a lower elemental force-field that now revives (resides) there.

Q: So human beings were elementals?

Forces: Not of the elemental force-field today, but something in a similar fashion that would float above the earth.

Q: They were conscious?

Forces: They had a question of the conscious thought within them.

Q: Did they do anything, what did they do?

Forces: Oh, some just sat around and others just waited. And more others got more involved and more driven into the elements of the force.

Q: Which turned them more black?

Forces: Which became heavier and heavier.

Q: What finally did the change to the lighter things of the earth?

Forces: More of the entrance of the Sons of God into the earth.

Q: Did they have that civilizations with ah buildings, things like that?

Forces: Well something that would be comparable to today’s civilization, but nothing near to what they had.

Q: They had more?

Forces: In a different more, that is intricate fashion.

Q: And yet they were grosser than even us?

Forces: Even before that yes.

Q: So really they do it through their intelligent mind or something?

Forces: On the power of the force of thought.

Q: Is there any book that relates this story that we could get?

Forces: You would find it given to you in books. There might be a message of Lillith which explains some of the lower forces or those moments in time that happen then. And there are other creations that would go along, The keynotes of astrology and formation of the astrological world of pre-Atlantis could be a good informative book.

Q: Before man can meet his own soul so to speak, he must first name and gain the power over the animals and this is what’s represented when Adam did that?

Forces: Correct.

Session 90

Q: Could you tell me what…what a cubit was at the time of Noah…Noah? That he used on the ark?

Forces: This is a measurement of space in which represents from one center to the other. Question.

Q: Was it…there wasn’t no like inches on a physical level? A number? A measurement?

Forces: It would equal a little bit more than in Question.

Session 150

March 9, 1978

Q: Did the ark go into another dimension, the original ark?

Forces: Let us say it is in hiding.

Q: What do the animals that Noah took in represent? And why 7 (seven) pairs of the clean and 1 (one) pair of the unclean?

Forces: Represents the qualities within your body.

Q: The elements of things in us to work with – the 7 clean, one for each center? The one unclean the gonads that we have to work with? Is that…

Forces: Correct.

Q: What does it mean "...and the Lord shut him in" Noah, after entering the ark?

Forces: He was sealed from outside.

Q: By you?

Forces: By a ray of tar.

Q: A ray of tar?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Physical tar?

Forces: It is considered a ray of tar.

Q: By the Higher Forces?

Forces: Correct.

Q: What does it mean "...flesh with the life thereof… shall ye not eat", Noah after coming out receiving the laws?

Forces: There were certain things…of animals that were not able to be eaten.

Q: It means it will poison them?

Forces: It would bring back the old race.

Q: Today, too?

Forces: Today it is a different story. At that time, it just so happened to preserve that because there were races in the animals that carried over the genes and the problems of the other generations.

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