Chapter 08
published 5 April 04

Session 152

March 13, 1978

Q: Thank you. Who operated the Stonehenge in England?

Forces: They would be considered the High Priests or the Mystics of the Law of One.

Q: There was such a thing, "The Law of One"?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Could I ask if it was Jesus?

Forces: Correct.

Session 291/292

3/17/80-3/21/80

Q: Could you explain more about the Angels taking on the shape of a harp?

Forces: Angels that would take upon the etheric shape of the music of the spheres and the music of the spheres is in the shape of a harp that you see on the earth. But in this way they would communicate the Strings of Life it is called. And in the Strings of Life comes the power of creation in each one.

Session 287

2/28/80

Q: Could you tell us what the origin of those, at least there are those that we know of 3 symbols that we call music staffs, where those shapes come from?

Forces: The Land of Mu(my idea Mu-sic) they call it.

Q: What were they there?

Forces: More of the Mother symbols and Child symbol.

Q: Did they ever take like the physical form of a staff that?

Forces: Energy, pure e-thic, etheric energy.

Q: And they affect the notes that are played under them in some form..?

Forces: Of course, yes.

Q: Govern it?

Forces: Uh-hum.

Session 285

2/15/80

Q: Could you explain the training of a Bard (?ovate) who were trained to use the Harp, the verses they were trained to use?

Forces: Ones more stronger in its own essence, ones more dynamic in its force. See the Harp is much more of a receptive organ (my idea in the shape of an ear).

Q: I didn’t understand the answer.

Forces: The bar is used more as making ah groundwork or building or ah pushing or forcing the energies, while the Harp is more of receiving the energies.

Q: I’m talking about the Bards. I’m talking about the Druids, the ones that used the harp that trained in the use of it.

Forces: No, no, no, no, no (sigh) (sigh). We’re talking about not only people, ok, we’re talking about exactly the same thing. One is the ones who pushed or made or created the energy. The Harp is just a receiving of the energy. Bars, the ones who do the Harp, the ones who do the music. The ones who do that is a special force, not, there was a time in which not everyone could do it. So they had to develop themselves and had to put themselves on special plans. Could you understand that?

Q: Not really.

Forces: Well take it from us that’s what happened. And they would, they were energized tremendously, so they were the pushers or they became or it became the moving of energy force and breaking, not only physically but also on a astral level.

Session 267/268

Q: Could you please give me understanding, in this book Micah in chapter 5, and verse 5.

Forces: (..)

Q: Could you please give me understanding about this verse in Micah chapter 5, verse 5 where it talks about the 7 shepherds and the 8 principle men who shall stand up against the Assurian. Could you tell me who the shepherds are and the 8 principle men?

Forces: Well there are several antidotes or circles of interpretations to this. 7 shepherds represents those sections within the body that have been consecrated in the performing of the spiritual mission. Those centers, those centers, those centers that are revolving around the mission. The 8 principle men can be identified or implied or explained as the 8 principle men of the world or nations of the world or the 8 qualities within man that need to be worked with. They also could imply the source of the 8 receiving forces that surround the earth in different shapes sizes and tones.

Q: And the ideas that I had on the 8 people going into the Ark, that was the 8 Books of the Torah?

Forces: Yes, along with 8 different representations of the extraterrestrial aliens functions.

Q: And the Book of Numbers is the key to it?

Forces: Numbers are the keys to all things, yes.

Q: The twenty sided figure is that the ones the map is supposed to be like, the Grid?

Q: Yes.

Session 287

2/28/80

Q: Could you explain what the, I’ve been reading about the Druids and they seem to worship, they say they worship Noah and the 8 people in the Ark. Does this relate to ah cube thing and the octagon at the center. Could you explain how all that works?

Forces: Well let us say they worshiped the Laws and the Spirit that was given during that time and that would, the working is of the octagon and also the land of ah information and resources were given. Ah interesting, ah there is a, a, a instrument that was derived from this. Ah it was from the ah Mohammedan 600 area(?600ad), when they had astronomy involved. This was the course of Celtic information handed down in such a way that it found itself in this scope, in which they have a ah triad of the stars on a flat surface, giving the scales and the numbers of each constellation. This was handed down from not only Greece and Latin, no not Latin. The Greek ah histories and what was handed down to the Celtics who were involved a lot with astronomy.

Session 288

2/29/80

Q: Could you explain the cube or the octagon how the Druids like thought of it and used it, with the 14 things in the middle?

Forces: More of a concentrated focus and building aspect. Ah there were many ah Revelations received by concentrating on the center of this object, during those times. And they had certain ways of focusing in on it. These are all private sections of the Druids that could not really be focused in on because they were private and separate from the world, and the world could not understand them. Almost the same what this particular group is going through. There is no way you can prove yourself to the world, as far as system and styles, and it cannot really be done as much as you would like to have the world accept, the world can never really accept movement and truth and progress because there is always that forerunner of ideas that are not readily acceptable at the moment.

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Q: Could you explain what the Caldron of (Cerwidren), the Druids used to receive inspiration through, what it was?

Forces: Well there were many Caldrons as you call it, some were a, was a chair or a open center into a hole in the earth, in which someone would receive messages from or sit on or a suspend themselves over. There others would bow upside down to extend themselves in to receive some sort of Revelation. You have all sorts of different experiences that were going on. And you have also the flute type, ah , ah trumpet that people would hear or listen into to receive messages. But these would give you some explanation ( ) that moment.

Session 292

3/21/80

Q: In the Book of Kells all the diagrams that they do around the edge of the page, is that some secret message?

Forces: Yes, these are angel messages from the Higher Force given to the monks of that time.

Session 296/297

4/9/80-4/19/80

Q: The dream I had where the ah, I saw the cube and I saw, you told me, someone told me to look at it from the end and it would be the secret to the ah, (..) of the Celtic arts, the way I understood it. Like the cube of, it looks like the cube of Saturn. Is that correct?

Forces: This is good yes.

Session 287

2/28/80

Q: Was the mystical language of the Druids, what we call today the Celtic Art, lined up with the musical notes?

Forces: Yes you could describe it as that, also stones and minerals and shapes were involved in that.

Q: You said the Weavers carried something similar to a harp, to go along with what the Druids carried, could you describe that?

Forces: More or less it was in the form of a half a C, and the hand could hold it.

Q: What would be the dimensions of it and how many strings did..?

Forces: About the size of the hand, 4 strings.

Session 286

2/19/80

Q: The idea I had about the rod, at the center of the cube being the staff and the faces being like harps, the 8 faces of the octagon being like harps and the rod like a staff, like the Bard used?

Forces: Yes this can be applied to the sequence.

Q: Another idea I had, where the Bards, you call them Bars most of the time, I understand why, do they represent like the musical bar?

Forces: This, this is very well, yes.

Q: And the staves would be different notes, what would represent the different notes like the whole thing?

Forces: More or less the pulsation’s and inspirations of certain forces, inspiration generally.

Q: Would these people of the Bards be comparable to the Weavers, what they called in Israel?

Forces: They carried the energy, yes.

Q: The Weavers carried harps too?

Forces: Yes, they carried a form of a harp.

Q: That’s connected with the family of Asaph right, in King David’s time?

Forces: Yes and his carrying of the harps.

Q: In Irish legend the beast with 100 eyes, is that the Urim?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Am I correct about the Ogam being invented for the High Priest to use on the Urim?

Forces: Yes.

Q: The Urim is that in Ireland like I think it is?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Would it be in county Kork?

Forces: It could be , yes.

Session ?

Q: The person Ogma who invented ogham, what character in Genesis would he represent?

Forces: The wing or the feather, no more so the mist of the water.

Q: On the Ogam, in the beginning you gave me the triangle of 100 beads(Urim). You said to group them by fives, the Ogam is grouped by fives. Is that why they go together?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Is there any way you could help me to understand how you form letters with the beads?

Forces: Forming letters is usually done by a telepathic mode, along with the physical mode.

Q: Don’t understand the telepathic part?

Forces: A projection.

Q: Could you tell me what the Ogham alphabet represents?

Forces: It represents a box lunch. In it is considered nutritional information for those who have to travel to work.

Q: Anything else?

Forces: We find that it could be a doorway to that of receiving as far as the inner mechanisms without the outer. Man walks through time and space constantly by the nap of his neck.

Q: Who was Taliesin?

Forces: Taliesin was a force and a growth of changing things and seeing things in the great picture of beyond. He moved from dimension to dimension and carried with him the understanding. People the 4th dimension is before your very eyes. Heaven is right before you. When you fall in death you fall right into the 4th dimension. Immediately your body moves, gets cold from the feet and moves on forward up through the head. The head is the last part in which the spirit of life moves out. And then everything becomes incorporated into the existence of another dimension that is actually a real dimension that we go to. It can stand on its own feet if you seek to do other things it would point out etc, etc, etc. There are those 4th dimensions, in which are capsulated and in capsulate-ing them it is called the wind of consciousness or the wind of revealing. Wind comes in the morning to 6: 07(6 or 7) the latest 6: 20. It is the 4th dimension wind, reveals all things necessary and if we all go immediately to continue what we have.

Q: Forest of Broceliande and graph paper?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Red pigs of Broceliande and mushrooms?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Merlin and Taliesin the same?

Forces: Yes.

Q: Can a voice or the use of song aid a projection of thoughts like was written often about the Bardic gift and how does that work?

Forces: Repeat.

Q: Can voice or spoken word….?

Forces: Chanting and the repetition of sounds.

Q: But not just directly the spoken word or the …?

Forces: It helps, the word also helps and that is the same process, but chanting is the repetition and enforcing this word.

Q: So for a single, would it take a person with a gift or it takes, is there a special gift that certain people can do?

Forces: It is given in soul lines and other lifetimes earned.

Session 97

July 23, 1976

Q: Thank you. Also, does St. Patrick have something to do with the aspect of commitment?

Forces: St. Patrick has an aspect of driving away those temptational forces within man. That is why the Irish people are noted tremendously for the amount of energy and that of their temper. For that which they have is the direct key and foundation of the covenant; and when it abides by the God or laws from above and when these laws are broken, then enraged people are set about to correct that which is undone. Subconsciously, these people are that aspect of the lost tribe that carried the covenant and protected it through many years. This enabled them to write creatively for the Higher Forces. This was their inheritance if they abide by harmony and discipline, rather than by strong drink.

Q: Thank you. When you say "lost tribes", what particular tribes like of the sons of Jacob…when it says lost tribes of Israel?

Forces: This is the lost tribe in which had their strengths in the sons of Levi which brought them into that of the sons of Manasseh, which was the combination now of Asher and that of Methuselah.

Q: Methuselah (Hebrew pronunciation)?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Asher, Methuselah and Manasseh are the Irish people today?

Forces: Correct.

Q: Thank you.

Q: What does the Celtic game the Brandubh board, what does it mean?

Forces: Represents that of evil and good in the earth.

Q: Could you explain how it works, sort of?

Forces: More or less that of taking over the element in the earth for good or for evil.

Session 255

8/29/79

Q: Also I have a question that I ask in the last session about the chess board and chess players. Is that something like they have on a ship?

Forces: This is the calculation of 9 th dynasties from the beginning of time, to the completion of man in the earth, or better yet for the soul of man through the earth.

Q: Would it be on an actual level like a board that’s used on the ship?

Forces: The board is the symbolism of the energy field belts surrounding the earth, it could be utilized affecting the movements of projections of ships

Session 297

4/19/80

Q: I had this idea that the Tarot as presented through the story of King Arthur and the Quest for the Holy Grail. Could you tell if the Tarot is in there and how it goes along with it and how the cards go along with each of the Kings and Queens?

Forces: The Tarot of course is involved. We would say the major cards are involved with each personality and each standard. Of course the different Knights and Kings, sets involved with the 12 principles or 14 codes. The 14 codes or ways of movement. Of course the principles here are old and just so that the happens that this has taken the same stand in its upbringing and movement to that of the Tree of Life and the codes, the cards of learning. So it could be applied in its own way and means. Finding the ways and means in time, all is up to the individual and each one is primal and not stationary as far as its development.

Session 297

4/19/80

Q: Did Joseph of Arimathea appear later in the Bible or anywhere through history that we would know?

Forces: You mean the Old Testament or your referring to the New Testament continuance?

Q: Through history.

Forces: Your speaking history as being the living Bible?

Q: Right.

Forces: Smart. Your addressing it. Well let us say he was always involved with the, he was a tremendous help with Woodrow Wilsons new plans, (—-) or World Order. That should be the most recent.

Sessions 194

10/15/78

Q: In the tales written about Arthurian England, and early medeval England, they have all these tales of Knights running into encounter after encounter, and what appears like fantasy situation, after situation. So much is written like that, a knight could go out in the woods for an afternoon, and encounter 47 processions of people going through the woods, and all sorts of things. What does this really represent, what is behind all those things happening?

Forces: More or less, the life of the elemental forms, and people of the little colonies, that do reside in the forest.

Q: So these are stories of elementals, encounters with elementals?

Forces: And other creatures of different dimensions.

Q: Did this actually take place, did they actually encounter them?

Forces: It does.

Q: Where is the Holy Grail?

Forces: The Holy Grail is in the states of the United States. Question.

Q: Where? In Virginia?

Forces: Could be. Question.

Q: Tom said it is around the house here.

Forces: It would be a good idea to place it. Question.

Q: Is it in England?

Forces: It also has an aspect of the Grail. Two (2) cups involved. Question.

Q: Which one is where?

Forces: Feminine quality of cup.

Q: Two (2) cups?

Forces: At this Last Supper.

Q: Are those cups in the possession of people, or is it somewhere hidden in the ground.

Forces: Let us say it is in the possession of strange elements. Question.

Q: Thank you.

Q: Who took the Grail originally?

Forces: It was taken by the apostles to England.

Q: Which apostle?

Forces: John, Thomas, and Philip.

Q: What became of it and what did they do with it?

Forces: Consecrated rock that was given, impressed, engraved and in which cup would travel through the rock many miles down into a crevice in which in time it stayed until it was rediscovered by ancient monks bringing it to surface and then bringing turmoil’s and wars and conflicts to the country.

Q: So whoever brings out the Grail is bringing forth conflict?

Forces: Must be used correctly. If not, conflict sets in.

Q: Thank you.

Q: Is there any guidance for me at this time?

Forces: Depend on inner strength and guidance God is giving. Be in communion, pray, and talk more and more in your life.

Q: Thank you.

Q: The three (3) names you mentioned that took the cup to England, are they the three (3) that made it out of the twelve (12)?

Forces: Those are the three (3) that made it. Question.

Q: When we speak about the 3 apostles or the 3 tribes or the 3 around Moses who made it. What is meant by them making it?

Forces: What would be said the joining of the spirit consciousness or the light centers within their body and joining into a higher consciousness of Christ-hood.

Q: And then the others didn’t make it. Could they have made it?

Forces: There was a great possibility.

Q: What 3 paths do those 3. What 3 paths on the tree do they represent?

Forces: You would find them to be the Father Mother and more of the Wisdom aspect.

Q: In the story of the quest of the Holy Grail, that’s the three (3) apostles?

Forces: Correct.

Q: In the story of the Holy Grail, is it true that the king stole the sword of Peter?

Forces: Very true.

Q: Is the sword in England?

Forces: The sword is in question.

Q: Did King Arthur have the sword?

Forces: Correct.

Q: That is Excalibur?

Forces: Correct. Sword in body.

Q: Oh, so it’s like the Tree of Life. It’s how you manifest it, not a physical sword but a spiritual sword?

Forces: Correct. Question.

Q: Is it related to the gaul?

Forces: Related to what would be considered the three (3) endings and beginnings of the spine.

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