Session 145

FORCES: Greetings to all those here present now. We have been with you for a period of time and find your progress a little bit slow in certain areas and in other areas, on schedule. We would like to express this changing force in which the group in itself is not as a united group, being that some are off to the North and some are to the South, but in all respects it is and shall be the best in the end, circumstances involved. We find that there are changes coming in the outside experience, the government of policies in banking and in most of all, trade with other countries. We have here an interesting project, in which the United States is interested in saving money for itself and not allowing so much input from other countries, especially Japan and South American aspects. We would strive to indicate that each individual strive, also, to have a closer union with their God and spiritual awareness in their daily living. Disciplines must be set and adhered to, recognizing many miracles around you by putting those laws into play. Questions.

RU: In the Acts of the Apostles, it seems that Paul was not really a Roman soldier, but perhaps a soldier or a temple guard because he keeps referring to…

FORCES: This is correct. He was an official for one of the Sadducees.

RU: Thank you. Also, it was indicated that the entity Tom was Joseph of Arimathea. Now, a couple of sessions ago, Mark asked about if each of the apostles…if any of them were in different personalities during their incarnation as Jesus’ apostles, and it seemed that it was said that each one of them was all just in one at that time. Could you help me to understand that aspect?

FORCES: It is that each individual is part of another when they are working for greater plans, for Joseph Arimathea was in part and parcel to a lot of the disciples at that time as soul links.

RU: So Joseph of Arimathea was like a combination and extension of a few of the Apostles?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: You didn’t say that Joseph of Arimathea was not Tom.
You just said he was a brother of Tom.

FORCES: Correct.

IS: Thank you. What areas are we progressing all right, or rather, which areas are we not progressing all right?

FORCES: It would there be obvious to all. The pipes in the house and the functions of the bathrooms, the lower areas, could be moved a trifle bit faster and consciousness could be acquired in a higher level if they would only be aware of items that have to be worked with and plan each step out on paper and then go and do the ah-ja object.

IS: Is there any help for me that I can help then with?

FORCES: Talk with them and plan it on a piece of paper what needs to be done, what items needs to do it, how long they estimate to do it, and what are the obstacles, and review it every day. This will give them a progression chart and a reflection on how they are improving.

IS: Thank you very much. Is ah, in my dream, the things okay, what I’m supposed to be doing?

FORCES: You are following a pattern that is right on schedule, ahead of itself a little bit doing fine.

IS: And for the entity Tom, anything?

FORCES: He is moving and taking areas that need to be worked with.

IS: Now with the electricity, is that progressing all right?

FORCES: That is moving on time.

IS: Is there anything that I can do to help Jacob to be willing to do it?

FORCES: This would have to come gradually and within. Encouragement of him and possibly encouraging on the ability to do it would help

IS: Is he afraid? Is that it?

FORCES: Yes and no. It is a question of many things. It is a learning process. Learning.

IS: Did we act correctly with (?) who was the oil people?

FORCES: Everything was on schedule. We couldn’t have done it better. A person could take some pointers on your tactics with what has to be done.

IS: It was ah… Thanks, thank you very much. Any problem?

FORCES: On schedule.

IS: Thank you. Anything for EE or SN and HA?

FORCES: Just that they must move, keep on moving, help would be when they need it.

IS: That house, is that is where they’re going to stay, the house they are in?

FORCES: There is a possibility of creating a new prospect of a new home.

IS: The insight that I got into the, into the kitchen of theirs is that correct?

FORCES: We was one that receive and gave.

IS: Thank you very much.

HI: Could you tell me about the meaning of the dream that I had last night? There was a house that wasn’t real in which Jacob and I were living with a long tunnel, and we had a very peculiar telephone number with many trees.

FORCES: Represents a development that you and him will be going through a test and trial it will bring you to a tunnel where seemingly it is all dark around. If you keep looking forward, the light will come. Telephone on the trees would mean that the Higher Forces or Us or that beyond is trying to communicate with you and give you the wisdom and knowledge for handling the things that you need to get done on a worldly level.

HI: Thank you.

DD: What do Ephraim and Mannaseh represent?

FORCES: They represent the negative and the positive within the nervous system, the giving and the taking, the fruits and the trees. The Tree of Life and its branch on the top.

DD: Are they one like one soul?

FORCES: It is one manifestation of a quality of a soul that can take two forms in one.

DD: Were they brothers later on, Apostles and all that?

FORCES: Correct.

DD: Would that be James and John?

FORCES: This is ah not relative.

DD: Thank you.

MK: It seems I’ve gotten really far off the track lately. Can you guide me?

FORCES: Just guide yourself. The track is what you have allowed to off the beam. You must reassure what you’re doing and how you are doing it. You’re not too far off the track. You just have to admit to that discipline and the qualities of concentration with your mind.

MK: Thank you. Can… Ezekiel’s wheel…is there any way to draw it on two dimensionally, or lines…how would they…

FORCES: It could be drawn, but the true experience of it would never be expressed.

MK: Its almost impossible or impossible to express it in drawing or in painting?

FORCES: Not impossible, but would consume an
awful lot of time.

MK: Thank you.

RU: Ash Wednesday and Lent is coming very soon. Is there a particular discipline that would help me in that period to realign myself better?

FORCES: One meal a day, one day the fast, abstinence from meat during a certain time. Nonetheless, it is the concentration in your prayers that are more important than the physical manifestations. One element has already been taken care of. Now the new element is new because it is in front. It should be well to look after the ankles and the legs and then the general area of that. Question.

RU: Thank you. The dream that I told Tom a couple of days ago with…there were two cars one with Hotep and one with a bus of children. Could you help me to understand the meaning of those dreams?

FORCES: This here represents many items and aspects within self, representing the controlling factor of dis-attachment with that younger aspect. Also it represents the willingness to go deep into the spiritual thought. You must go without these… These principles must be in strengthening you. You will walk upon the spiritual laws and strive to work hard to learn them, even though on a worldly, physical level, you will have no principle. It will have to be developed within you. Question.

RU: Thank you very much.

FORCES: Question.

IS: My dream this evening with Abraham coming, or then he turning into a female, yet still remaining Abraham, with all the problems and things.

FORCES: It represents the aspect of Abraham visiting here on an astral level seeking for help and then being receptive to it.

IS: Oh, is that right? So, he’s getting better?

FORCES: He will be getting, what would be considered, better, but still the major answer was with him and God.

IS: But they will see it as the medical profession has helped him’

FORCES: This would be a slight overtone.

IS: Now, once Tom said that the whole LaGuardia group and all the people, Joe Pinto and Rose, and all that, their preparations for the next lifetime, what capacity are they going to be with us next lifetime?

FORCES: As distant employers or distant employees or distant relatives or distant people.

IS: Oh, I see, its nothing like Search for God or stuff like that?

FORCES: There’s none of that.

IS: Or none of them?

FORCES: They will have their Search for God. There is none of that in this respect.

IS: The, in other cases, was it just a failure on their part to become something more next lifetime, or is all the people that today are relatives of ours, distant or employees or whatever, are they also people that we have met in some sort of more spiritually connected capacity before, or just karmic?

FORCES: We would suggest a balance of both.

IS: And it was a failure?

FORCES: We do not perceive it as such.

IS: So it’s something that will give fruit, ah will give fruit in many, many generations to come. Now, with Ezekiel’s vision, is that a spaceship?

FORCES: Question.

IS: With Ezekiel’s vision, was that a spaceship?

FORCES: Correct. Question.

IS: A Mother spaceship?

FORCES: In many different aspects. Question.

IS: Should we buy a new sinks?

FORCES: We would advise not at this point in time.

IS: Thank you. And the water heater is correct?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: Thank you very much.

HI: Now the door of sound that leads to middle earth, is that a door, is that a sound that has to be created by music from us?

FORCES: We would find it moving on schedule. Question. Question?

HI: The door to, to middle earth, the door of sound, is that a sound that has to be created by music?

FORCES: The sound that is around and is being
created every minute.

HI: Then, of what dimension is middle earth?

FORCES: Part of every dimension from the first to the fifth.

HI: And, also, it seems like from what I have perceived about the people in middle earth, that there is one aspect – that they all do not have what we have. It seems like they’re more real, more magical. Could you tell me about that?

FORCES: This is a by…product of many expressions, finer things in mind (life?), giving way to more substance, more expression of the spirit. Question.

HI: Thank you. Then is middle earth, is that the magical storehouse for earth?

FORCES: It is a stopping point. Question.

HI: Thank you.

IS: Does it mean that man is better off living underground than above ground?

FORCES: He is not better off to do that. Question.

IS: It’s just a whole different thing?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: Different people?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: Do they have bodies like ours?

FORCES: Smaller.

IS: Smaller. And is it a whole other consciousness?

FORCES: Not far from what is in this society.

IS: Do they speak? Do they have languages? Do they have vocal cords?

FORCES: They do.

IS: Then, what is the difference between them and us?

FORCES: They are superior.

IS: Oh, so why wouldn’t it be better if we could go underground?

FORCES: Because these are already superior to many developments, and they go into a different experience. Some are not so superior and heavy, so they have what they call inner conflict.

IS: So those that aren’t superior, are they equivalent to us or lower?

FORCES: We would express this as a lower factor.

IS: So, actually, they have their strifes and things, the same as we do?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: With caste systems?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: But yet they could be good. Could people from this earth incarnate into entities down below?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: And versa vice?

FORCES: Incorrect.

IS: When would an entity then be incarnated then, under what circumstances, down below?

FORCES: It would not happen.

IS: It would not happen?

FORCES: Correct.

IS: Then, the two never meet in actually?

FORCES: They do, but other items within the characteristics of the body framework would react.

IS: The physical body that would react?

FORCES: Mental mind and the spiritual soul.

IS: Is it like negative and positive?

FORCES: Correct.

IS, Oh, in that case, we couldn’t possibly meet.

FORCES: It could not be. Question.

IS: Thank you.

DD: What does a red shield mean on a, with a white star on it?

FORCES: Certain aspects of discipline have been
accustomed, and now are moving on to working other aspects out in the highest practice.

DD: So, it represents attaining certain disciplines?

FORCES: Correct.

DD: So in the Middle Ages, all the knights had different shields, where did that originate?

FORCES: The centers with the body. Question.

DD: Could you tell us more about what happened during the time of king Arthur?

FORCES: It was a United Nations system created. Question.

IS: Is that correct about me and my feelings toward King Arthur the way they were explained to me?

FORCES: And with the respect of?

IS: With the respect of the lost one.

FORCES: It would be an interesting deduction in analysis. Question.

IS: Correct?

FORCES: On the alliance of being. Question.

DD: Did any of us ever or we as a group ever incarnate like in Japan under the Buddhist discipline?

FORCES: Correct.

DD: We did as a group?

FORCES: Some did it as a evolution process.

DD: And that would be under Zen Buddhists?

FORCES: It would be under different aspects. Question.

MK: On the things which we work with or sacrifice or repress, so to speak, on the conscious level, are they more prevalent in dreams, or will like the things we are working with have to come out somewhere and sometimes in dreams?

FORCES: Correct. It is a working pattern that comes out a year to six months ahead of itself. Question.

MK: The things that you’re working with would come up in dreams six months prior to when you would actually work with them?

FORCES: Correct. Question.

RU: Is there anything in regard to my sister and all the things that are happening to her?

FORCES: Just turning to her God and not to her mind.

RU: Is she doing that, all the things that are befalling her?

FORCES: This would be coming slow to her.

RU: Thank you.

IS: In my dream I also had a few other things something about the house and everything. What was happening?

FORCES: There is a stronging, stronger presence being absorbed and a protective light being added that certain miraculous and mysterious, and mysterious, and good items would manifest.

IS: Thank you.

FORCES: Question. We here have come and only strive to give answers that match that within. We ask only that as you move forward, you bring up your relationship with your God that it would be of a higher evolution and that you as a person, as a soul, can move forward into other galaxies, not satisfied with the moment. For remember the future is ahead of you, and the other galaxies and universes are out there to be worked with. The more you move forward with faith, the faster you can move throughout the universe. Greetings to all here present now. We shall stay and remain and return before the week is through.

Group: Our Father, who art in the Heavens, hallowed be Thy name…