Forces: Greetings to all here present now. We find you all (——) everything and staying around (—-). We find the situations on a worldly level very moving the next few months should be very active as always when you reach this period. There shall be much involvement with Nixon and that of Cuba. You will find also of a small part of European countries getting involved. We also find great interest with this Spiritual Revelation coming in October and affecting Washington and affecting New York but more so Washington the (idea) we spoke to you about earlier but it was not the Pope that was bringing over this energy it is the force that is there already and he is happening to touch upon it very psychic man in many respects. We find everyone in the government very frightened of their jobs and insecure at this moment of saying anything about nothing.
Forces: Now we are ready for your questions.
DD: Can anymore be given on the Glass Bead Game?
Forces: The Glass Bead Game is representing of certain centers within the body that must be purified and crystalized and then refined to the point of giving up those qualities.
DD: Can anymore be said on how it was constructed and how it was done in the future?
Forces: More or less like 3 squares put together.
DD: Flat or 3 dimensional?
Forces: They are 3 dimensional in a flat sense.
DD: Like in a rectangle 3 squares?
DD: With hung beads in between?
IS: Is it something that going to grow out of Chess?
DD: Could more be given about the number of beads. Total number?
Forces: Could be 72, could be 105, could be 54.
Q Is that on all 3 of them(squares), the 3 different ones, that is the number on each of them?
Forces: Each one varies.
DD: Why do I find that book very the person in there very close, the character very close to the way I think?
Forces: You both had the same minds almost.
DD: The character depicted in there is the same pattern I’m going through?
Forces: Not really now lets not live through the book but remember there are other members who have gone through the same experience and (lets move on).
DD: Any guidance for me?
Forces: The meditations and the Rosary’s that you should be doing.
DD: The dream I had where I did the Rosary is that from the cause of the Rosary?
Forces: Part of it yes.
DD: Thank you very much.
IS: My dream with the fight that I had with RU something to do with GL is that the thing that is now happening?
Forces: It was on the astral level in which she was upset that she lost the battle over GL.
IS: Was that also the end of the white and black force battle that was going on?
IS: She allowed herself almost consciously to become a channel for black force through her hatred?
IS: The attack of the whole entire black force concentrated on us for that period?
IS: And it is over now its finished?
Forces: On the astral level its finished.
IS: We won?
IS: And now on the physical level?
Forces: Just legalities and things that one has to go through.
IS: But that’s it they took on the legalities when they realized the other fight was over?
IS: Thank you.
BR: The dream that Tom told me about this morning when he heard Debbie crying or yelling, also, part about GL to watch out for his eyes. Could you tell me what that means?
Forces: Well there’s some changes of forces in that entity Debbie and go through many changes in the next 3 years to come and GL eyes his vision must always be to his God and for his Spirit during these times ahead.
BR: Thank you.
BR: The dream that I told Tom could you tell me what that dream meant?
Forces: It means that there are many roads ahead for you but one that is narrowing into there are many changes around that will come about for you to make you stronger. There are also many recourses that will discovered and many strong points that will be brought forth these are all interrelated with this particular dream.
BR: Thank you.
BN: Could you give me some advice for this time?
Forces: Well try to be alert and attentive and continue to keep your dedication to the idealisms of the Spirit and to the development of the involvement with this particular group.
BN: Could you tell me some of the karmic patterns I need to conquer?
BN: Is that all you want to tell me at this time? (Laughter)
Forces: I think that should cover everything.
BN: Thank you.
NN: In Psalm 139 where it says ‘I am fearfully and wonderfully made’ what does the fearfully mean?
Forces: Going back to a evolution and the gradual decent into the earth and how much one has lost and fearing that which was gained to control it.
NN: Fearing that which was gained?
Forces: The amount of power that one has with what they do have.
NN: So fear of God means letting go of the worldly power letting go of the fear of power in the earth?
NN: Thank you.
Forces: That’s correct.
NN: Also what was the ritual the shouting time and the harvest time (—) with shouting?
Forces: This was a point where they would gather many things one of them being of grapes another one is that of souls and another one that of times to be ready for the development of many Master degrees to be placed upon those who were the Initiates.
NN: Thank you.
LK: In Proverbs King Solomon talks about Wisdom and he writes about Wisdom as if Wisdom were an entity and that entity is describing herself. Is Wisdom a type of entity.
Forces: Wisdom does take on a personality or a entity within itself it does yes.
LK: In one chapter he’s talking about, Wisdom is talking about she was here when God created the foundations and before the void and before the depths and when God measured with his compass and it also says that Wisdom was there before the clouds were established. Where in the Hierarchy would Wisdom fall?
Forces: The Principalities.
LK: Thank you.
LK: Also in the Cayce readings when it talks of as man became heavier and heavier in the earth and lost the ability to project the various shapes and the various shapes began to freeze and that there were still a few who were able to still project and that those were the ones who became known as the gods like the Egyptian gods with the bird heads and things and the Olympian gods is this true or were the Olympians gods a totally different type of entity or creation?
Forces: They had their common heritage.
LK: So they were what is know in that terminology as man but they just lost the abilities slower than the others?
IS: Was it not because they also were more involved as a unit as a school?
LK: Thank you.
Forces: We have to say that we feel that as though it is advertising. Remember the world entreating you into the world you must give it that so that you might enter into the Spiritual side of life. Remember the world invites you into them to sup with remember your soul is on the plate.
DN: The dream that I had could you help me understand it?
Forces: Well let us say you take that dream and right it down and put it in between Psalm 145 and 146. The dream is what would be considered many avenues of forethought in the developments that will be coming to you in a symbolic way. They represent all the qualities that are residing within you and they also represent those forces that will be coming down around you. There is also a unseen part of the dream that will represent a faculty that will come to give you that extra strength to make you perceive the energy factor that you do have that you might be able to utilize it and cultivate it in its same process for the spirit this time rather than the physical or mental. So in that and the Psalms it is a growing type development.
DN: Thank you.
IS: Is that a test for him?
Forces: There are many tests that would be good but the entity must look always for the spiritual side and by doing that he will be receiving his reward on the physical side.
GL: Could anything be given on chapter 6 in Genesis at this time?
Forces: It is one of the passages of degrees that one would follow it’s a Initiation type degree of moving from that of the earth into something higher even though it looks like its from the Spirit to the earth or something lower. We would only suggest that it’s a corner stone chapter in which tells of the promise of salvation to the Spirit and the degradation of the soul into the earth. It also is a key chapter for a future breakthroughs and evolutions.
GL: Also is there a chapter in the Bible that would correspond to what a person would have to through as if working through the leyden center or working with that development that’s involved with that.
Forces: 4th chapter of Job could help out in that.
GL: Would there be any personal guidance for me at this time?
Forces: We advise you that during these moments that you keep your Spirit positive and keep your Faith in the Force around you and to walk with the strength and confidence that you have and doubt not what you are or what you’ve done but what you have done and what you’ve tried to accomplish and just to know that we will be with you and we won’t let you handle this by yourself and we will guide you through the whole thing.
GL: Thank you very much.
JE: At the time of the flood what was happening on the earth and what was happening on a spiritual level and how was the Flood accomplished?
Forces: At the time of the Flood there was a great war between Satan and Michael in which Satan was getting too rowdy and too possessive of the earth and was about ready to be in control of it in which Michael came in and had his hand to hand battle which left lots of scars on Satan and totally tilted the whole earth, the comet was not really a comet but was the force of the Message of Michael and Satan around the earth constantly in the force of battle the polar caps of course as was mentioned did alter the caverns in this area opened up and released the water that’s excess, in fact the caverns are still in excess in these areas and when the earth tilts slightly these caverns let loose the water that is like a tub or a cup on an angle. So if you move the cup in any direction the water will spill also caverns within the earth opened up under this pressure and released the water that they were holding and of course the rain was coming down releasing the moisture in the air constantly through this action.
JE: Where did all the water go?
Forces: Well it dried up some of it went back into caverns and some of it went back into valleys and gullies and holes into the earth and some was absorbed into the atmosphere others was absorbed into the mountain forests (force?).
JE: How many Arks were there?
Forces: Well there was the major one you are reading and there were several hundred in the earth.
JE: Thank you.
BH: In the curse that God put on Adam and Eve when he said to the Serpent “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel’ exactly what do those things mean?
Forces: It represents that it was through Eve that she was to become represented as Mary or the Spirit of the Mother and it represents that it was through her that she must have the salvation of mankind and through the sacrifice (part?) and that Satan would be conquered in the end by her foot.
BH: How do you mean conquered by her foot?
Forces: The Principles of receptivity and femininity of being receptive will be the conquering factor in the earth.
BH: Thank you.
IS: Does it also mean on a physical level when the amount of females going to God overrides the amount of females not going to God?
Forces: Of course.
IS: Is there a foreseeable future with that?
Forces: That there will be more females going to God.
Forces: Of course.
IS: What will do all the mothers?
Forces: They’ll have to give up their desires over their children.
IS: So there will be an actual organized thing?
Forces: In a indirect way yes.
IS: Is there a time how many thousands of years or whatever?
Forces: In time to come.
IS: Thank you.
BH: How does Jacob holding on to Esau’s heel relate to that?
Forces: Well this represents that the Spiritual quality will have superior quality and conquering over the physical strength of mans consciousness that no matter how you look at it even though on a physical level it looked like he was successful the spiritual quality within man will have to be superior and will conquer over everything and it is the superior quality that will become its birthright over the beast of man for man must subdue itself to the Christ Consciousness within even if it likes it or not its the spiritual quality that will conquer no matter how subtle or how silent it is it will conquer.
BH: Thank you.
JU: Can you give me some guidance on how I can break the pattern of some past thought forms that have been coming into me?
Forces: Well fasting will help you directly and you should have some type of prayers, special prayers also you must check yourself and your thoughts and notice how they are habit forming and break the habit, chew bubble gum.
JU: Can you give me any special prayer that I might use?
Forces: 125 Psalm would be good to memorize and well not 125 we’ll make it well 25 would be good to memorize and “Lord in thy mercy we ask I ask to you its I (Laughter) I ask for the inner strength and the power to understand my soul being Lord give me the guidance and strength that I might keep walking on the path to life find in my Heart those elements that make me weak and pas s them from me in a spiritual way (——) and renew my heart to make it strong (and) in thy strength enkindle in me the fire of understanding and wisdom that in these tests and trials that I meet I will see your face and it will set me free from the bonds on the earth.
JU: Thank you very much.
JU: Is there anything you can give about Herman Hesse can you tell us anything about what he was like as a soul what he was going through that all these books came from him?
Forces: Some type of Initiation and just as you are going through it too you know. You are all going through an Initiation those who leave have dumped it.
JU: Is the composer Handel incarnated in the earth at this time?
Forces: Handel yeah he could be around but ah were not going to say anything but no.
DD: Is there anything can be given for meditation information?
Forces: Just trying to keep the mind still is the biggest problem that one needs to do once that is accomplished one can enter into meditation gradually. I know it might take many years but just keeping that mind still is the objective in the force of meditating.
DD: Thank you.
BR: With Mount Olympus what happened to it?
Forces: Its still there in a astral way.
BR: Thank you.
BR: With the dream that I had at the end of the dream there was a little boy in the group his name was Christopher or Chris and I put him on a spaceship and we took off to the Higher Forces or, he was a pilot for the Higher Forces but he was a little boy. This is the second or third time I dreamt of him and he keeps growing in dream first he was born as an infant–?
Forces: Well your seeing inside yourself the Christ Spirit that is growing.
BR: Thank you.
IS: All these new beginnings that was from the weight that was sitting on us?
IS: There are some people now that are almost flying beginning to fly anyhow.
Forces: Well there is a tremendous pressure when Mothers become Mothers.
IS: Were there women in history that were able to overcome it?
Forces: Not too many.
IS: How about Rose Kennedy?
Forces: Trying to overcome it.
IS: That’s why they’re all dying on her?
Forces: In a direct way yes.
IS: Thank you.
BN: The man Immanuel Velikovsky who wrote the book about the comet coming near the earth and causing the floods?
Forces: Yes, yes, yes.
BN: He also said that the comet broke off from Jupiter and became the planet of Venus giving rise to the myth of Athena coming out of Zeus head is this correct at all?
Forces: Umm heavy (Laughter) We sometimes wonder where these characters come up with all these ideas. Symbolically he’s right but it was much more than just that there was again another war within the galaxies between Satan and Lucifer with Michael and many planets were explodes from other qualities within the solar system yours and ah there is a parallel between Venus and Jupiter but not the way you would see it astrally there is a band that connects Venus to Jupiter and eventually soon someday they’ll find this black space that goes from Venus to Jupiter and that’s where this would relate to what your talking about.
BN: You say something broke out of the earth too.
BN: Did you say something broke away or broke out of the earth to?
Forces: No we didn’t mention the earth the earth has its own problems.
BN: Thank you.
Forces: The earth has its black space on the other side of the sun.
IS: Does that black space represent something?
Forces: The other planet of the earth.
IS: The negative force?
Forces: The other half of the planet earth.
DD: Is that the planet Vulcan?
Forces: Well you could call it that (the) name is like antimatter.
IS: Is it antimatter?
DD: Is it represented in the body by any thing?
Forces: It is represented by, the invisible parts of the body, the one doctors eyes cannot see.
NN: Is Nebuchadnezzar in the earth now?
Forces: Your really stuck on him. We don’t see him in the area at this moment.
GL: The antimatter planet does that symbolize the separation within the soul of man into male and female?
Forces: No it just represents the difference between the Spirit and man body form that he’s become weighted into.
Forces: At this point we will be leaving but we will stress that we will try to do our best to help you out the situation with RU and try to work that out as best as we can. Everything is moving according to plan. Just be strong and keep your spirit high and you will all go to the glory of God or to us, well to the Higher Forces as you say but we say The Great Beyond and remember that there are many things that will start coming for development and working on and it (will) take time but there’s lots of items to be accomplished. We’ll keep an eye on you and we’ll speak to you again and many (—-) just be strong during this moment and pass on it one day at a time.
Forces: Greetings to all here present now.
Group: Our Father.