Session 313/5/9/80?

Forces: Greetings to all here present now. We would advise that you would close the door or the moment. There are many changes that are coming as we have told you. We have stressed to you in previous sessions that the weather would be kind of bizarre and strange especially in the west and southwest the Midwest this weather condition is a large percentage of what we work at to get certain things done. We would advise you as had been spoken on that you as a group must defend the interest of what you do have and protect it, it is true don’t give it out so easily protect it. There are many who will say nice things in front of you but behind you will be the opposite. So be careful, careful what you have and preserve it whether it be a penny or be a dollar or be ten or whatever. Be careful of the (thoughts?) preserve and preservation is part of the Initiation so when the time does come to give you will be able to give to those courses, be it that of health, that of the body, that of land, that of progressive learning these areas would be well. As far as the conditions that are involved with what to give to who to give. There are major ones that of course dealing with your health. There will be those around who will come soon to collect money this dealing with the health that of your ambulance service and your fire service these are necessities. Now as far as the economy of the, of the, of the earth we find that Argentina has gone extremely wild as far as Peru and some other small South American states. We are now ready if the individuals want to come in we would be ready to have them in. There will be great changes in the areas of California as we have said Oregon and Washington and many political upheavals. There will be internal battles within the structure and there should be some strange going ons in very strong populated cities.
Forces: We are now ready for your questions.

DD: Could you tell me if the book the Greater Trumps by Charles Williams I read which is about Tarot and a person using the cards to sink the Spanish Armada is that a true story?

Forces: Well it would prove to be in its own, yes, yes um-huh.

IS: It wasn’t the Tarot that did it was the…?

Forces: The energy and force concentrated yes.

IS: Thank you.

IS: When you said the collectors you meant fund raising?

Forces: Correct.

IS: Thank you.

GL: Could you tell us more about the man in Mexico (Don Jose Carmen Garcia Martinez)
Who was growing large vegetables he mentioned about a alien city underground could you tell us more about that?

Forces: He learned how to grow there, plants so they would thrive and survive. These cities are numerous and ah have well developed areas in them.

GL: Thank you.

IS: That’s underground cities not people, as we know them?

Forces: Yes uh-huh.

HI: In Revelation where it speaks about the beast and in the end where the beast got healed from a deadly wound what does this mean in terms of a consciousness that would be prevalent in the people at that time?

Forces: Not learning the lesson not giving belief in the God or the Spirit and falling on to the logical explanation of things. You have two choices one to believe in the Spirit or to believe in the logic and that is it and this is the deadly beast.

HI: Thank you.

BH: Could you tell us where the energy from the Solar Plexus goes which center it goes to first?

Forces: The Solar Plexus has a tremendous force within the body not only does it record and keep accurate data on what goes on in the earth but also has a strange relationship with the Pineal and Pituitary gland affecting of course the Thyroid first. So we put it into that order first the Solar Plexus through the Thymus for the Thyroid Thymus first and then the Pineal Pituitary is affected by the Solar Plexus.

BH: Thank you.

NN: Could you give me a better understanding of what covetousness is?

Forces: The very fact of wanting or taking or looking at something and envying it the very fact of being impatient and without patience for that which is to become yours.

NN: Its not just physical things right?

Forces: Oh there are many covetousness in the mental world.

NN: Thank you.

BR: In Psalm 49 verse 4 where “I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open my dark saying upon the harp “ what does that mean?

Forces: These are the curses or the forces within that are negative and affects the harmony of the body.

BR: And the Harp being the harmony?

Forces: Yes.

BR: Thank you.

JE: Situation at work?

Forces: Ah well we would address it more of a record keeping over the period of weeks and then directly ah directly handle it after 4 weeks.

JE: Thank you.

JU: Patterns of types of jobs I’m repeatedly involved in are those ones that are better for my development or am I locked into them because of failure to do certain other things that I should be doing?

Forces: Well this would have to be within self to look at but sometimes these jobs do work out for you its limitations and a can’t do or will not do attitude that can stop progress for yourself in images or situations or positions more or less its ah tests and trials in this trying to overcome a set images of boxes.

JU: Thank you.

LK: How can belief in the Spirit be strengthened?

Forces: How can it be strengthened that is ah is your test in the earth. (Phone rings) we will wait go ahead. The best way to strengthen the Spirit world is through service, is through prayers, is through Meditation and in this readings of the Bible and also keeping your spiritual eyes open as you lay down by being thankful for what has been given to you and just generally a commitment to the Spirit regardless, that is a commitment to God regardless of the physical elements, that one must make a growing commitment as time goes on to the Spirit by faith. This is a test more or less for all individuals that in this they are tested that they have committed themselves for God out of belief and Love. Ah helping you to believe in the Spirit is trying to see how societies and other people before you experienced their Revelations this might have a great ah seed of growth in you.

LK: Thank you.

DD: What does the stone in the book I’m reading by the same man (Charles Williams) represent?

Forces: These represent the development of certain forces that man will someday tune into as he aspires on from the earth. In all reality man is caught up in the earth. It is up to man to ascend from the earth and the desires and the demands of the earth this is the symbolic stone.

DD: Thank you.

IS: The girl (Joyce?) that was here last night?

Forces: What what you had done with and talked to on was very needed and necessary and very positive in her development. Ah as far as the individual is concerned we find a great deal of strength in the Spirit if allowed to nourish and grow in time. This has a great deal of balancing factors for herself and those around her. There is great potential.

IS: Thank you very much.

DL: Is there any sort of fungal bacterial or viral infection longstanding or recent inside me that needs to be coped with or worked with?

Forces: You might have what we would call ah the life process of living that could be absorbed from this ah we find little parts here and there that need that will always need a certain attention and can never really be eliminated per se because it is part of your system (—) of growth it is part of the body functions and the chemistry of your body so it is always necessary to be in giving to your body certain items that would help it and to all bodies this stands to reason.

DL: But nothing out of the quote normal systematic infections that…?

Forces: Do you feel that you are carrying an infection inside.

DL: Sometimes.

Forces: Then you should have it checked out. Sometimes this infection is there and the humidity and the ah heaviness of combinations within the lungs is not ah an infection as you would say infection more of elements that are being corrected and worked with. We find no ah serious problem at hand.

DL: Nothing in the bladder or the brain?

Forces: We find very dramatic sayings with these conditions ah we find lots of conditions in the blood and lots of conditions in the brain ah it all depends upon you would like to focus on.

DL: Anything that would need to be handled like on (——-) medical kind of situation major.

Forces: The human body always needs medical a natural attention to it every day ah if we look hard enough we can find something to focus on, focusing on these qualities viral or contagious ah elements of fungi and fun gee. As we said you have some normal difficulties in the breathing apparatus but this is because of past experiences and lifestyles that have ah hampered some of your tubules ah of breathing its not destroyed them totally for there are some there (——). So you really can’t get ah a 100 percent from your breathing apparatus ah smoking itself has affected you a lot ah and should be looked into ah to be ah cut down and canceled if possible ah other conditions are being remedied and corrected by the right diets and foods that are being very protective and helpful for you.

DL: Thank you.

GL: I would like to say thank you for all your help in the last months and I had a question concerning I was wondering if you could help me to understand How I should go about setting certain limitations at work for instance. I feel I don’t say no to certain demands on me and maybe I should?

Forces: Any demand that takes you out of the flow of your job and makes it’s a complicated or doubly as far as responsibility should be looked into and no should not be said fast but no on conditions that ah make your job complicated and look into where your job that you do have you could un-complicate it by different systems.

GL: Thank you.

HI: Is there any substance, chemical substance that is the same to the body as it would be lets say gold to the earth?

Forces: Ah chemical substance for the body…

HI: Yes.

Forces: Found in food that you eat…

HI: Yes.

Forces: Well you find some element of wonder drug in the Jerusalem artichoke; you will also find it in Cucumber skins and strange as it is the garlic the onion, the clove and the vinegar aspect has a great deal of strength to the body. We also see a certain amount of what would be considered ah mustard to have some affect on the body. As far as Gold is concerned gold is gold where it is at, but the greatest gold to the body is not only salt but water and ah the aspect of ah the right forms of ah garlic and ah vinegar as apple cider or vinegar itself.

HI: Thank you very much.

BH: Could you tell us anything about Isaiah’s life? Did people believe his prophesy’s?

Forces: It took a (l—-?) time in having people believe ah weirdo, as they would say he was he had his own group of course and gradually he began to be heard ah it was a difficult experience for him.

BH: Did he become depressed?

Forces: Oh he, he was tested many times on that.

BH: Thank you.

NN: Where it says in Peter for since the Fathers fell asleep all things continued as they were from the beginning of the creation is it the scoffers that are saying that or is part of the …?

Forces: Lets say its part of a ritual experience of asking the questions.

NN: Thank you.

IS: Would you explain?

Forces: There are certain questions that need to be asked to the Initiate as he goes along the path of learning and this would be the first question that he or one of the first questions that he’s confronted with for the right answers.

IS: Thank you.

JE: What karmetic pattern am I working out with the entity at work?

Forces: There is a ah what we would call an identity process that is going on. Ah allow that person to be assertive and contribute that assertiveness but also allow certain assertiveness in your own direction. It is allowing you to become more of a male aspect of assertiveness not taking control but assertiveness with the spirit of love in it. Ah these given back and forth tendencies will finally be put into perspective so other conditions can be developed and worked on.

JE: Thank you.

JU: Is there some guidance you can give me especially in the area of focusing more on the spiritual aspects of life as the day goes on instead of always constantly finding myself involved in the worldly things?

Forces: (—) try to strive and gear your mind from the things that you catch or see immediately and strive to correct or work around them ah reading subjects that deal with the spirit or spiritual influences can help elevate or raise from the worldly ah situation to the higher situation that will give you the right response. The reading of ah Psalms and Proverbs ah help to gear that into line.

JU: Thank you.

LK: What’s happening around when there’s a lot of lightning and there’s little or no thunder and there’s no rain.

Forces: This is what you call the ah eh, eh ehletit battle between the invisible angelic world in which black forces refuse or the santanic force refuses to give up their land area while the angelic force pounces on them and takes it over without any choice.

LK: So that’s why the lightning like tonight was so fast and so violent?

Forces: Yes.

LK: Thank you.

DD: Is there any guidance for me now?

Forces: As we have said to you the one step at a time theory works the best along reading the one book of Sherlock Holmes and this will bring some interesting questions for your next advancement ah there is also a book by a man who is considered one of the inside understanding of mysteries not the mysteries, mysteries on lets see Williams there’s another name.

DD: The one I’m reading now.

Forces: What’s that.

DD: Charles Williams.

Forces: No, no. (Beld?) ah lets see if we can give you the right one. Look up ah “the case of the missing identity” that is a book title that would be interesting to read and there is the well you wouldn’t call it the lonely hearts club band ah the secrets well we’ll come up with these things for you ah there’s one by Lord (Lloyd?) William Jackson ah I think it’s a third that deals with these conditions of evolution of the soul and has some interesting points into it an 18th century writer, a 19th century writer ah you’ll also have a Malcolm a Malcolm Bailey that is an interesting writer and we’ll come up with other names for you as time goes on.

DD: Is that the first book of Sherlock Holmes?

Forces: Yes the first one that he had written.

DD: Thank you very much.

IS: What is happening with Brian?

Forces: There’s no test he is ah insecure (part missing) the development for the strength and we will be with it we’ll transform the whole matter.

IS: So it’s drawing him closer to the Spirit?

Forces: Yes the testing the trials of the Spirit yes it is good.

IS: Why is there a tremendous closeness between fear and Faith?

Forces: Because they are both from the same source and the fear comes from the same source that stops the catalyst for faith to take over and faith is the out process it.

IS: Normal people don’t experience and that many as those that are struggling with faith.

Forces: Normal people we don’t understand we haven’t found one normal in years.

IS: What I mean is the things (part missing) would bother a spiritual man at he became afraid other people weren’t afraid of it take Jacob and Esau that the spiritual man always has more of the fears than the one that is not spiritual.

Forces: Were not advocating fear but there are reasons involved as time goes on we’ll explain them to you.

IS: But it is a correct observation?

Forces: Oh yeah we see the, we see the condition very well.

IS: Thank you.

HI: When an animal has also a pineal body what is the function for them?

Forces: What.

HI: The lizard has a pineal body I was very surprised…

Forces: Yes we’re sorry to hear that (laughter) (part missing) think fast..

HI: (———-).

Forces: Who discovered it.

HI: I saw it in a diagram.

Forces: Ohhhhh a diagram (laughter) yes but you will also have to understand that the animal word is going through their own private evolution of ah development and ah certain elements have gone into these lower forms what we consider lower forms so they can develop certain characteristics. So there are many levels of evolution going on around you, you just happen to be in the best one.

IS: Isn’t it also true that the lizard at one time was a much highly evolved intelligent?

Forces: Still is its just is because of the curse (was) placed upon through the snake linage that they have cased, also they have been created all lizards have been created by the Atlanteans and then they were put back down to size by the power of the earth.

IS: So in that case the pineal gland or whatever might still be a leftover maybe not very much used.

Forces: We’ll you’ll find a very good secret in this the pineal gland is what scientists will discover if you take a piece of it you can identify the exact identical aspect of the piece that you have taken it from will create everything that you know the rest of the story.

Forces: At this point we would be leaving and speak to you again soon.

Forces: Greetings to all here present now.

Group: Our Father.